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Title: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: Whatthefranklin on Wednesday 18 June 25 14:57 BST (UK)
I need help with five names on Free Franklin letters.  Letters are from 1832 to 1837

Thank you for the help.
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 18 June 25 21:39 BST (UK)
The top one is Seymour Larpent
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 18 June 25 21:47 BST (UK)
Quote from: ShaunJ on Wednesday 18 June 25 21:39 BST (UK)
The top one is Seymour Larpent

Just to confirm
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/c1ed9df6-7132-47e0-8eb1-9cb439dead9c
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 18 June 25 21:52 BST (UK)
Mr Lee is a solicitor

Messrs Dyneley, Coverdale & Lee
Field Court,
Grays Inn

as per the address

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/4ee79212-28a1-420b-a6ee-c6284344939c
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 18 June 25 21:54 BST (UK)
I am having no luck with the middle one

I think I see

London June twenty nine
                                1837
Not found (in red)
            Thos Reid

England Sir (?) A. B. ...................Bart
                                          Thurnham??????  (get absolutely no newspaper hits for that so I don't think it is correct)
                                       Stoneham.

and then the signature bottom left I assume is that of the person giving the frank? Is that how it worked?

I've tried searching newspapers for "Bart" in Stoneham.   I got a bit excited about a HEATHCOTE but he was Wm not A.B.  And it seems Stoneham might not be correct anyway doesn't it. 

Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: Whatthefranklin on Wednesday 18 June 25 22:21 BST (UK)
Seymour Larpent is the person receiving the letter?   Can you tell who sent the letter? 
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: Whatthefranklin on Wednesday 18 June 25 22:24 BST (UK)
Thank you for the help, where I'm struggling is discovering who the sender of the letter are.
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: Whatthefranklin on Wednesday 18 June 25 23:17 BST (UK)

Could the bottom one be William Peel?   1834–1835 Lord of the Treasury under Robert Peel
1835–1837   MP for Tamworth (held frank privilege again)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256644411785?_skw=Robert+Peel&itmmeta=01JY2GFJ5V51NPBDA1143FWDRY&hash=item3bc132f189:g:u9wAAOSw87Vm6h7q&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1cavCVli5UMfHx2iJUfa9UR3JxhER4Yv9TIdhYcvloPzdXGKHplPCoY11JcQapzSEyhl%2BRmorLy47Ceo3CDV4P4%2BAoVxv60ABDSl%2B%2Fr7G3PYUJFD6%2F9EhVf4XjdketWKoqnCZOX8VhPSUe4z7duW8EChIwmGKMkmglUt7NDRwhFXEZSELFMHoJSZYP4WWemqEvi95zTt0%2B3KrD%2FVfeokzz3i1r%2FWsKORc69HRANK4FVcKQI%2FPsmydloaHJ0cdIzqiAFMkXggm2foazwCuB%2FXGAb8A02mt9iArv7hsBNsmf4NA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5ajvtDwZQ
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 19 June 25 07:12 BST (UK)
"Bart" suggests he was a baronet
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 19 June 25 07:21 BST (UK)
Quote from: ShaunJ on Thursday 19 June 25 07:12 BST (UK)
"Bart" suggests he was a baronet

Only if it actually says Bart. Do you think it does?
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 19 June 25 08:24 BST (UK)
Not sure. There is a Hart Dyke of Horeham baronetcy. Was there an AB though.
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 19 June 25 09:50 BST (UK)
Sir Augustus Brydges Henniker, Bart
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 19 June 25 11:07 BST (UK)
Quote from: ShaunJ on Thursday 19 June 25 09:50 BST (UK)
Sir Augustus Brydges Henniker, Bart

Oh well done!
and here he is https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/a7ffbd59-16a0-4503-8c21-aabfa4c8306b
at Thornham, Suffolk so no wonder he wasn't found at Stoneham!
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 19 June 25 19:53 BST (UK)
Quote from: Whatthefranklin on Wednesday 18 June 25 22:24 BST (UK)
Thank you for the help, where I'm struggling is discovering who the sender of the letter are.

Sorry I see your replies must have been held up in moderation. Now you have made more than three posts I think that will stop.

I suppose the franker could be W, Peel on the lower one. But very hard to say.  Are there not other copies of his signature about?

The middle one is something like Grinaud/Grinand/Kinnaird but no real clue
The top one sort of looks like David.  But isn’t. It ends in d anyway,

But the person who franked isn’t necessarily the sender of the letter is it.  Anybody could ask someone with this privilege to frank their letter.

Yes….W.Peel.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/256644411785
Title: Re: Help with five names on Free Franklin letters from 1832 1837
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 23 June 25 07:45 BST (UK)
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Mr Lee is a solicitor

Messrs Dyneley, Coverdale & Lee
Field Court,
Grays Inn

I think this must be Daniel James Lee, who was articled to John Dyneley in 1816.