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Hi was hoping someone may be able to track down the parents of Elizabeth Coverley who married Thomas Kells.
Elizabeth was born in Blackburn around 1814. She married Thomas Kells in 13 Feb 1831 • Eccles Parish, Lancaster, England. I believe she died 1880.
There is an elizabeth coverley who was baptised in Manchester 1820 but Im unsure if this is the Elizabeth Im looking at. The father was Thomas in that baptism.
Thanks in advance for any help
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Buried 30.4.1880 at Anfield Cemetary aged 66
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The 1820 baptism has a note showing they were from the parish of Salford. Birthplace is Blackburn on census entries & birthyear seems consistent at 1813-1814
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For her to be the one baptised in 1820, she would have to have been baptised at about 6 years old. If that was so, it would be quite possible for her parents to have moved quite a distance between her place of birth and where they were resident when they got around to having her baptised
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The parents of Elizabeth (1820) were Thomas and Christina, they had three more children I have found so far: Mary 1823, Margaret 1826 and Ann 1828. It looks like a consistent pattern for baptisms not long after birth. I was hoping for a "job lot" baptism which would probably imply a set of children of different ages.
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The marriage witnesses were Isaac Holt (X) and Thomas Gorse. Thomas Gorse is probably parish Clerk as he witnesses all the marriages on that page. There were several marriages in that church on the same day (13th Feb) and Isaac Holt witnessed them all. He may be just a stray parishioner dragged in as a witness or connected to one of the couples, but not necessarily to Thomas and Elizabeth.
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checked 1841 census for Thomas Gorse of Eccles, confirms occupation is parish Clerk
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The family of Thomas and Elizabeth are remiss in baptising the children after birth.
1851 census Liverpool
Thomas 47
Elizabeth 37
Eliza 16
William T 11
Elizabeth 8 *
Ezekiel 6 *
Mary 3
Margaret 1
Elizabeth death recorded 1851 age 8
Ezekiel death recorded 1851 age 6
On 10 October 1852 the surviving children -William Thomas, Mary Jane and Margaret are baptised at St. Bartholomew, Liverpool.
William Thomas was birth registered 1839 Manchester so he was 12 years old.
They were all of Marlborough Street Liverpool - father warehouseman.
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Not sure about that 1820 as a Elizabeth Coverley married Abraham HALEY 09 Nov 1846 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles
Father THOMAS a Labourer
Abraham a Stone Mason.
1861 Census Elizabeth HELEY is born c 1820 Manchester, Lancashire.
Abraham born Yorkshire
1851 we have;
Abram Heeley 27 Lodger
Elizabeth Heeley 30 Wife
John Heeley 2 Son
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I can see only 3 male Coverleys born c 1791-1810 Blackburn on Census;
Robert c 1796
Robert c 1806
Thomas c 1804
Hard to find Blackburn bapts and only 1 that I see with my resources is NANCY Coverly ;
Birth 2 Sep. 1801 Baptism 1 Oct. 1801 Blackburn to THOMAS/ELIZABETH
She was buried 3 Jan 1802
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Not sure about that 1820 as a Elizabeth Coverley married Abraham HALEY 09 Nov 1846 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles
Father THOMAS a Labourer
Abraham a Stone Mason.
1861 Census Elizabeth HELEY is born c 1820 Manchester, Lancashire.
Abraham born Yorkshire
1851 we have;
Abram Heeley 27 Lodger
Elizabeth Heeley 30 Wife
John Heeley 2 Son
Maybe Elizabeth (1820) in 1841 (before her marriage
Thomas Coverley 45
Ann 40
John 23
Elizabeth 22
Isabella 20
Mary 15
Jane 2
Jane's mmn is Catterall.
There was a Christiana Coverley mmn Catterall born 1837, but died 1838.
Thomas Coverley married Ann Catterall on 15 Nov 1835 in Eccles. doesn't say he was a widower. Can't find his first wife's death, but often found a child from 2nd marriage named after first wife if the name hasn't been used before. John and Isabella might be Ann's children who assumed Coverley surname.
Piece number 543
Book number 6
Folio number 34
Page number 16
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Except Elizabeth married Thomas Kells 13 February 1831.
1841 Thomas has already moved to Liverpool, Elizabeth is still in Manchester with daughter Lizey (Eliza) and son Thomas (aka William Thomas)
OR are you referring to the Elizabeth who married Abraham Haley.
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Except Elizabeth married Thomas Kells 13 February 1831.
1841 Thomas has already moved to Liverpool, Elizabeth is still in Manchester with daughter Lizey (Eliza) and son Thomas (aka William Thomas)
There are two Elizabeths one b Blackburn abt 1814, one born Salford d/o Thomas and Christiana (poss nee Gardner). If you're creative with Coverley spelling there are more Coverleys and variants in Blackburn.
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Okay thank you all. Slightly confused here but glad for the help. Going to have to read through this to make some sense of this.
So its possible Thomas and Christina are Elizabeth's parents because there is a pattern of baptising the children a few years after they were born?
But Elizabeth could have married someone else a Haley?
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Sorry if we confused you but to me that Elizabeth bapt 1820 to me may have married Abraham Haley 1846.
Census has Elizabeth Haley born c 1820 Manchester.
Your Elizabeth is consistent as born before that.
Others may have another opinion.
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Thank you Trish. So the one that married Abraham Haley, is that the one with parents Thomas and Christina?
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The 1820 baptism has a note showing they were from the parish of Salford. Birthplace is Blackburn on census entries & birthyear seems consistent at 1813-1814
Thanks for this Carole
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I can see only 3 male Coverleys born c 1791-1810 Blackburn on Census;
Robert c 1796
Robert c 1806
Thomas c 1804
Hard to find Blackburn bapts and only 1 that I see with my resources is NANCY Coverly ;
Birth 2 Sep. 1801 Baptism 1 Oct. 1801 Blackburn to THOMAS/ELIZABETH
She was buried 3 Jan 1802
So its possible that Elizabeth's mother may have been Elizabeth also who married a Thomas Coverley? Although if they had a Nancy Coverley there is a 14 yr age gap between Elizabeth and Nancy which isnt impossible
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I discovered a John Coverley baptised in blackburn, St Mary the Virgin son of Thomas and Sarah 24th Feb 1826 - may or may not be related
Baptised by R Garnet
Occupation Weaver
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What I said was I could only find 1 child with my resources bapt Blackburn;
NANCY 1801
The other Coverleys on Census may also be siblings but cant see bapts for them.
So if their Parents were Thomas/Elizabeth and they were having children c 1796-1814 then that is not a large gap.
There are 25 years between me and my oldest sibling.
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Also possible Thomas / Elizabeth are not the same couple. Or same Thomas with new, possibly younger Elizabeth.
I have a rellie called Clement (unusual forename) had children with wife Sarah, then gap then more children baptised to Clement and Sarah. I was searching for a long time for more children in the gap. Then I discovered burial for Sarah wife of Clement after the earlier set of children. Eventually discovered my Clement had got married later to another Sarah. And not married in the home parish but some miles away, of course. Ancestors don't make it easy do they?