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Title: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: JakeMcGhee on Saturday 14 June 25 17:24 BST (UK)
Good Afternoon everyone,

I am hoping someone would be able to help me find my Great x3 Grandfathers birth/Baptism record, his name was Charles Devine, and he was born to Charles Devine & Jane Smillie, I have both his death and marriage record, but his birth/baptism records illudes me, I have Census records from 1881 to 1901 all of which are based in Greenock, his place of birth is listed as Maybole in Ayrshire, I have also found his parents marriage record in 1849, also in Maybole , from the 1881-1901 census his age is listed as 29, 38, and 48, giving me a time period of around 1850-1855.

Kind regards,
Jake
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 14 June 25 18:44 BST (UK)
Have you tried ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk?
It's the only place to find Scottish records!
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: JakeMcGhee on Saturday 14 June 25 19:24 BST (UK)
Have you tried ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk?
It's the only place to find Scottish records!

Hello :)

Thank you very much for the reply, I have looked as much as I can on ScotlandsPeople, which is where I found all the other information, and tried a few variable spellings, but I am yet to find him.

Kind regards,
Jake
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: bevj on Saturday 14 June 25 20:17 BST (UK)
Doesn't directly help, but FamilySearch has a record  for the death in 1859 of Jane Devine aged 1, daughter of Charles Devine and Jane Smillie; she died in Glasgow.
Bev
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 14 June 25 20:25 BST (UK)
Was his father Charles Devine a shoemaker?

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 14 June 25 20:30 BST (UK)
There is a Charles transcribed as Desane  ??? On Ancestry he was born about 1853 Ayrshire
1861 Census they are boarding with a family 78,Old Vennell Glasgow
Could be a possibility if Charles Devine senior's occupation was shoemaker
The parents are down as Devine
Rosie

Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 14 June 25 20:48 BST (UK)
Was his father Charles Devine a shoemaker?

Rosie

The father, Charles, in 1851?
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59027b3ae9379091b11e0cf0/charles-divine-1851-ayrshire-ayr-1823-?locale=en
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: JakeMcGhee on Saturday 14 June 25 20:50 BST (UK)
There is a Charles transcribed as Desane  ??? On Ancestry he was born about 1853 Ayrshire
1861 Census they are boarding with a family 78,Old Vennell Glasgow
Could be a possibility if Charles Devine senior's occupation was shoemaker
The parents are down as Devine
Rosie

Hello :) Thank you so much for researching for me, I had a look on my Charles Devine's Death Record, and his Dad is listed down as a Shoemaker! so that looks like something to work with, thank you very much.

Kind regards,
Jake
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 14 June 25 20:51 BST (UK)
Good find Neale  ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 14 June 25 20:58 BST (UK)
1851 census for the mother Jane Devine
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5906700de9379091b1f0e15e/jane-devan-1851-wigtownshire-stranraer-1821-?locale=en

No baptism record for Charles found. Either lost or not recorded.
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 14 June 25 21:04 BST (UK)
If you are wanting to go further back there is a possible death for Charles Devine
1871 High Church Glasgow age 48
Mothers maiden name Keilly

Also Jane Devine /Smillie 1886 Kelvin
Mothers maiden name Pirie

Rosie
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 14 June 25 21:13 BST (UK)
Charles Devine senior in 1841
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a15906ff4040b9d6eaccba0/charles-diven-1841-wigtownshire-stranraer-1825-?locale=en
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 14 June 25 21:14 BST (UK)
If you are wanting to go further back there is a possible death for Charles Devine
1871 High Church Glasgow age 48
Mothers maiden name Keilly

Also Jane Devine /Smillie 1886 Kelvin
Mothers maiden name Pirie

Rosie

Death of a daughter Jane Devine mmn Smillie,aged 1 address 78 Old V****, Glasgow 17th Novenmber 1859. Father Charles Devine, shoemaker journeyman.

SS
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: JakeMcGhee on Saturday 14 June 25 21:46 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for the help everyone :) it is very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 15 June 25 00:38 BST (UK)
According to the census, Charles Devine senior was the son of Samuel and Elizabeth.
I think Elizabeth’s maiden name was McKIE (some children have baptism records)

1851 census for Samuel Devine
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5906700ee9379091b1f0e3a7/samuel-diven-1851-wigtownshire-stranraer-1785-?locale=en

1861 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59067241e9379091b1f3b1ae/samuel-divin-1861-wigtownshire-stranraer-1791-?locale=en


Poor Relief register 1865 Samuel Devine
https://www.scottishindexes.com/poorentry.aspx?poorid=451001401


Death for Elizabeth Divan / Elizabeth McKie in 1860 Stranraer
Mother - Gelgood
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 15 June 25 08:03 BST (UK)
Charles Devine senior in 1841
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a15906ff4040b9d6eaccba0/charles-diven-1841-wigtownshire-stranraer-1825-?locale=en

Good find  ;)
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 15 June 25 08:35 BST (UK)
If you are wanting to go further back there is a possible death for Charles Devine
1871 High Church Glasgow age 48
Mothers maiden name Keilly

Also Jane Devine /Smillie 1886 Kelvin
Mothers maiden name Pirie

Rosie

Good possibility this is Jane's parents
Jane Smillie
Birth date 4 August1820
Baptism 9 Octoer 1820
Port Patrick Wigtown
Father William Smillie
Mother Elizabeth Parry

The sister Elizabeth Smellie ( with Jane on the 1851 census )
Elizabeth Smellie
Birth date 15 January 1833
Baptism 6 March 1833 and
Stranaer Wigtown
Father William Smellie
Mother Elizabeth Perry

Rosie



Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 15 June 25 09:45 BST (UK)
MARRIAGE ENTRY on SP

SMILLER WILLIAM
to
ELIZABETH  PERRY/FR540 (FR540)
16/05/1817
896
20 / 263
Portpatrick
Title: Re: Charles Devine Maybole/Greenock
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 15 June 25 09:50 BST (UK)
The Smellie family in 1841, Stranraer
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a159071f4040b9d6eacce88/william-smellie-1841-wigtownshire-stranraer-1838-?locale=en