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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kerry => Topic started by: chrisos on Saturday 14 June 25 06:28 BST (UK)
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Hi listers
I have come across some Palmer baptisms listing Cooranassig (sic), Kilgarvan, Kerry as the PoB in the late 1840's to early 1850's. I cannot locate this townland on https://www.townlands.ie/. The family seem to have links to Slaghts which was another Kilgarvan townland. I was wondering if it was a subtownland of Slaghts.
Curanassig was recognised as a location on the 1826 Tithe Applotments.
Can anyone help me here?
Regards
Chris
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It’s got at least one mention in a deed in 1833.
No.12
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-G97C-N?view=fullText&keywords=Cooranassig&lang=en&groupId=
“And lands of Upper Cummeen and Cooanassig” so good chance it’s bordering Upper Cummeen.
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Kerry Evening Post, 29 May 1840
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Hi again Hanes
You are always so very helpful - my sincere thank you for the newspaper article. This townland isn't mentioned in the 1847 Griffiths Valuations so I can only assume that it was absorbed into another townland, Fussa perhaps?
Separate question, can you tell me the web address for the newspaper article? I need to do some searches in relation to other Kilgarvan folk.
You were an amazing help with my NZ research earlier this year.
Many thanks
Chris
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Chris,
You're welcome.
The newspaper articles are available via FindMyPast or British Newspaper Archive - both subscription sites. You can search BNA free but it costs to view the original
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/advanced
Trying to load a map which shows a Coolanasig just west of Kilgarvan - but gremlins in the works.
Are you familiar with Geohive Map Viewer?
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=3ae19cc156bf4706a929304bf8fcc4f6
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CooLanassig
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Curanassig in the Tithe Applotment Books, a Cooper, 2 Foleys and a Green there back then:
https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Kerry&parish=Kilgarvan&townland=Curanassig&search=Search
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Hi G
Most appreciative of all the help I have received. At some point between 1826 and 1847 Cooranassig dropped off the radar, no doubt absorbed into another townland, possibly Ardtully. May have been considered too small as a stand alone. Thank you for your help.
Regards
Chris
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I'm going to guess Slaght, for there is a baptism on 23 June 1850 (almost contemporaneous to Griffith's Valuation for that area) where a Patrick Palmer and Mary Sullivan of Cooranissig had their son John baptised:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634321#page/19/mode/1up (bottom of right page)
Patrick Palmer is quite a distinctive name and Griffith's Valuation shows him in Slaght.
Added: Maybe should qualify that to say that at least a bit of it was in Slaght, for there's every possibility that it could have covered a bit of more than one townland.
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Hi Gaffy
Yes they are the couple I am tracking. A Catherine Sullivan who was from Cooranassig when she married is of particular interest and I needed to know if I was looking at two separate Sullivan lines, one from Slaghts and one from Cooranassig or whether Mary Sullivan born Slaghts was a sister of Catherine’s. As it ow turns out they were sisters. And yes, Slaghts and Cooranassig seem mutually inclusive.
Thanks for your help
Chris
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Slaght townland with Ardtully and Fussa to the south - OpenStreetMap
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6344625#map=14/51.91670/-9.46395
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Snipped from Geohive's 25inch map - Coolanasig Bridge is where the road north from Kilpadder crosses the Owenbeg.
Added - poor image from original. Coolanasig Bridge is in the bottom left hand corner.
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Try the OSi National Townland and Historical Map Viewer.
https://osi.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=bc56a1cf08844a2aa2609aa92e89497e
Coolanassig in the south-east corner of Slaght townland. Pan down for Coolanassig Bridge.
https://arcg.is/1m4vy9
Use MapGenie 25 Inch - ITM in Basemap Gallery.
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Try the OSi National Townland and Historical Map Viewer.
https://osi.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=bc56a1cf08844a2aa2609aa92e89497e
Coolanassig in the south-east corner of Slaght townland. Pan down for Coolanassig Bridge.
https://arcg.is/1m4vy9
Use MapGenie 25 Inch - ITM in Basemap Gallery.
That's where I snipped the extract of the 25" map
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Try the OSi National Townland and Historical Map Viewer.
https://osi.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=bc56a1cf08844a2aa2609aa92e89497e
That's where I snipped the extract of the 25" map
Geohive Main Map Viewer
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=3ae19cc156bf4706a929304bf8fcc4f6
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I snipped the map from the Geohive site. I had checked the 4 old maps (3 x 6" and 1 x 25") and the image appeared quite clear when snipped.
Note - Geohive URLs deliver a search screen, not a map. I was advised a while ago the way to deliver a map, not a search screen, but long forgotten how. Hence the snipping.
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Hi Hanes & Kiltaglassan
Good morning from a cold, wet southern NSW.
The map site was excellent, thank you both. It always amazes me that there is more than one way to solve a problem. I didn't think of old maps but was pretty sure someone on RootsChat could help me. I was able to drill down sufficiently to confirm that Slaght and Cooranassig were basically in the same location.
Hanes - this is still in relation to my NZ research. My husband is descended from 2 separate NZ Sullivan lines - the maternal line from Londonderry which you (and many others) helped me with late last year/earlier this year and the paternal line which is from Kilgarvan. Just when I am sure this particular line were Downey Sullivans, along comes a Cooper Sullivan to upset things. In this instance, I wasn't sure if I was looking at 2 separate Sullivan lines (one from Slaght and one from Cooranassig). Catherine was from Cooranassig when she married but had connections to Mary from Slaght (Catherine's husband was a bpt sponsor to one of Mary's Palmer children). I have now located early baptisms for Mary & Catherine from the same parents, both from Slaght.
Once again, my sincere thanks to everyone for taking the time to help me.
Chris
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