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Hello,
I am trying to find out the name (inc. maiden name) of the wife of Thomas Holcroft from Wigan (b.1828), Lancashire. His daughters are Margaret Holcroft (b. 1866) and Jane Holcroft (b.1872). I know Jane married Joseph Birch in St Thomas, Wigan on April 15, 1893, Father of Bride listed as Collier, Bride address on marriage cert 6 James Street. I can't find their mother's name on any marriage or baptism cert. Margaret aged 26 and Jane age 18 are listed together on the 1891 census, but not their parents. I can't determine the correct family for the 1881 census.
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Have you checked freebmd for their birth registrations? You can then use GRO online to find their mothers maiden name. You will never find a mothers name on a marriage cert in England or Wales
There is a Dec 1865 birth reg for Margaret Holcroft - GRO online shows mmn Gaskell
If Margaret was born 1865/66 have you checked the 1871 census?
There is a Jane Holcroft birth reg 1874 - mmn Gaskell
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There is an illegitimate birth for a Margaret Holcroft in 1868 Wigan
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Thomas Holcroft
Fanny Gaskell
Marriage 4 Nov 1861 St. George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Margaret Holcroft
Birth Date 11 Dec 1865
Baptism Date 18 Feb 1866
Baptism Place Wigan, St Catherine, Lancashire, England
Father Thos Holcroft
Mother Fanny Holcroft
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Thank you, I believe Gaskell is the correct name - much appreciated.
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The marriage can be found on https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
4.11. 1861 St George Wigan
Thomas Holcroft 22 - collier - father Charles also a collier
Fanny Gaskell 21 - father Edward - deceased soldier
Witnesses Philip Riley & Jane Gaskell
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So far have found 4 children
Ellen Holcroft
b 5 Nov 1861 (blimey that was close!)
bap 16 Feb 1862 St Catherine, Wigan
Margaret Holcroft as above
John Holcroft
b 27 Apr 1868
bap 3 Aug 1868 All Saints Wigan
Died Q4 1868?
Robert Holcroft
b 6 May 1870
bap 5 Aug 1872 All Saints Wigan
buried 26 Nov 1872 All Saints Wigan
But failing to find them on 1871
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and immediately I do find them - unexpectedly in Durham! Attached to Castle Eden Colliery. All Holcrofts b Wigan
Thomas Holdcroft 30 miner
Fanny Holdcroft 29
Elizabeth Holdcroft 7
Margaret Holdcroft 5
Robert Holdcroft 1
Asaph Lutton 57 Boarder
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Hello, actually that is not the correct family, as the Jane Holcroft I am related to her father was Thomas Holcroft, but his father was also Thomas not Charles
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Jane and Margaret in 1881
John Mason 39
Jane Mason 40
Mgt. Holcroft 15 Relative (Other Relative)
Jane Holcroft 7 Relative (Other Relative)
Address 2 Barlows Court, Scholes, Wigan
Piece 3762, folio 108, p29
The Masons are next door to the Holcrofts on the 1871 census
There's a marriage in 1866 of John Mason and Jane Gaskell (father Edward, deceased soldier, ie Fanny's sister)
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I have found Margaret age 15 and Jane age 7 on the 1881 census for Wigan, but living with relatives, no parents listed.
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Hello, actually that is not the correct family, as the Jane Holcroft I am related to her father was Thomas Holcroft, but his father was also Thomas not Charles
What's your source for that? There's a couple of Thomases of a very similar age in Wigan
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From relations family tree site I was informed that Thomas Holcroft born 1828 had parents Thomas Holcroft and Mary Cooper, but it must be incorrect if the marriage cert says his father was Charles.
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As you hadn't found Margaret and Jane with their father, it's difficult to know that he is the Thomas b c1828.
It's best to work backwards from what you're sure about
If you think the 1881 Margaret and Jane are yours, there's a fairly good line back to Thomas and Fanny, as they're with someone who appears to be their maternal aunt
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Yes the Margaret and Jane living with relations in the 1881 census are definitely my relations. Jane married a Joseph Birch and her father is listed as Thomas Holcroft (alive) a collier - St Thomas, Wigan on April 15, 1893.
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Older sister Elizabeth from 1871 is a servant in Wigan in 1881. She marries Matthew White in 1885. One witness is Maggie Holcroft
It looks like Thomas remarried in 1885 as a widower to a Jane Jackson. They're in Vauxhall Road, Wigan in 1891, with a number of her children from her previous marriage
On 1881 he's with George and Ellen Lambert - listed as brother in law of head. George married Ellen Holcroft, daughter of Charles, in 1871