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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: BushInn1746 on Thursday 12 June 25 10:54 BST (UK)
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Partly for Information, although I am still searching for Thomas Turner and wish to look at the Davison, going back.
1861 Fanny Turner (nee Davison) at Beverley as Frances Bales
This Fanny Turner has been driving me crackers, to find at Lair Gate, Beverley, in the 1861 Census, having children at Hull and then Beverley, Yorkshire. Then I find this:-
Beverley Weekly Recorder, 26th March 1859
Police Intelligence.
Borough, Monday, March 21.
John Bales, Fanny Turner, and Susannah Davison, were charged with having, on Saturday, the 19th inst, robbed James Push, a farm-servant, from Mount Pleasant, of £4. The robbery took place at a disreputable house in Lop-lane. The prisoners were remanded until Monday next.
Then I find in 1861 Census, Fanny Turner, is another man's 'Wife' ...
1861 Lair Gate, Beverley
John Bales, Head, 25, Agricultural Labourer, Diss, Norfolk.
Frances Bales, Wife, 24, Agricultural Wife, Hull, Yorks.
Christiana Bales, Daur, 6, scholar, Hull, Yorks.
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Research so far, from 1854 forward.
1854 Married 7th March, Sculcoates
Thomas Turner, 21, Bach., Cartman, Vincent Street, Father John Turner, Mariner.
Frances Davison, 18, Spinster, Edward Street, Charles Davison, Bricklayer.
1855 Baptism at Saint Stephens Church, Kingston upon Hull
Born 18 December 1854, Baptised Sept 1855
Christiana D of Thomas & Frances Turner, 5 Beilby Sq, North Street, Labourer
1858 Beverley, St John and St Martin
Jan'y 1st, James, Son of Thomas & Fanny Turner, Lair Gate, Labourer.
1858 Burial at St John and St Martin, Beverley
James Turner, Abode Lair Gate, Jan 4th, Infant.
1859 Birth March Qtr
Registration District Beverley
Elizabeth Turner, Mother M.S. Davison.
1860 Beverley St John & St Martin
Elizabeth Turner, Abode Lair Gate, 16th Oct'r, 1 Year 8 months.
1861 Birth Beverley
John Turner, Mother Frances Turner, no Father on the Certificate.
In 1871 at Hull
Susannah Foie, Head, Wid, 80, Ireland.
Mary Jane Davison, Sister, Wid, 82, Hull, Yorks.
Christiana Turner, Grand Daur, Unm, 14, Domestic Serv't, Hull, Yorks.
1870 Death Registration District Sculcoates at 10 Charter House Lane, Hull
9th September 1870, Sophia Turner, 4 years, [cut off by GRO] Thomas Turner, Coal dealer deceased
Present at Death Christiana Turner, Registered September 1870.
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1871 Census 9 Charter house Lane
Fanny Turner, Head, W, 32, Charwoman, Hull, Yorks.
John Turner, Son, 8, Scholar, Beverley, Yorks.
1872, 19th April,
Birth, at 20 Dock Street, Hull,
Minnie Florence Turner, Father Thomas Turner, Mother Fanny Turner formerly Davison, Coal labourer, The mark of Fanny Turner Mother, 20 Dock Street, Hull.
* In 1870 Christiana Turner, claimed Thomas Turner, was deceased, so something is either dodgy about her claim, or the Father, Thomas Turner, on the 1872 Birth Certificate, looks suspect?
Comments
It looks like Frances Turner and her Daughter, Christiana Turner were living with John Bales in 1861 at Beverley and changed their surnames to Bales and then split up from John Bales and changed their names back to Turner ::)
How I got involved with this lot, is that the Son of Alfred Wm Hood, born Selby, Yorkshire and Edith Scaum, the Son being - Philip Howard Hood born Latchford, Warrington 7th December 1891 (Reg'd 1892), married Frances Selena Turner, born 6th October 1890 at 8 Withernsea Street, Hull.
In 1891, 8 Withernsea Street, Hull
William G. Marlow, Head, 40, born Hull, Yorks.
Christiana Marlow, Wife, M, 33, born Hull, Yorkshire.
Frances S. Turner, Niece, 5 mo, born Hull, Yorkshire.
Except for the 1854 marriage and references to him, I've not found Thomas Turner in the Census, nor established his demise, nor Birth?
Mark
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1861 census
2 Moxon Square, Holy Trinity.
Thomas Turner, lodger, married, 28, carter born Hull
Possible death
June 1/4 1875 aged 42 Hull
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Hi
1851 7 North St /Regents Palace Hull
John mariner 60 Selby
Hannah 55 Beverley
Thomas 21 Hull
Charles 19 Hull
Joseph 15 Hull.
marriage Hull Holy Trinity
john Turner marriner and Hannah Wood widow 3.9.1829
Ciderdrinker
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Still there 1871 with Catherine Collings from 1861 and a Mary Wood boarder age 6
28 Moxon Square
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tth/
Thomas Turner 40 Mar Coal Porter born Hull
A Catherine Collings marries 1873 to either George William Monday or Thomas Turner
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ttg/
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The marriage is online
1st Sept St. Stephens, Hull
Thomas Turner 46 Widower Coal Porter Moxon Square father John Turner Sailor
Catherine Collings 40 Spinster 28 Moxon Square father Thomas Collings Labourer
Mar. wits. Mary Ann Scally, Matthew ?Kirkwood
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From the death reg Bee found
Burial Hull General Cemetery
Thomas Turner, Cartman, Moxon Square
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tti/
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A Mary Roney is informant and 1871 West Street, has her with her Gfather John Turner, age 80 from Selby, mariner
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ttj/
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1873 burial reg. Hull for Fanny Turner, husband of Thomas Turner, coalporter
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ttr/
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A Mary Roney is informant and 1871 West Street, has her with her Gfather John Turner, age 80 from Selby, mariner
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ttj/
Thank you everyone for your research and replies.
The above reply is interesting that Mary Roney's Gfather was from Selby, a Mariner and a Turner!
Although, a Thomas Turner, Mariner, born Selby, already of interest to me and researched was born 1802 and his Son, John Hood Turner, were born later.
I have a Frances Maria Turner, baptised Selby 1816 in my notes to find out what happened to her, one of the Daughters of Charles Turner and his Wife, Maud (Maudland for their other children and nee Hood).
I have acquired numerous documents and discovered two fairly good links from my Hood line back to George Hood (who has no circa 1786 baptism record) to old John Hood a Mariner buried Selby 1819 (Father of Maudland Hood bapt Scarborough), one by marriages which both go back to another couple before 1800 which suggest that my family tree line still highly likely knew family linked by marriages to the Charles & Maudland Turner line (when an offshoot of my line married in 1906 an offshoot of their line descendants which effectively spans the no baptism gap).
Also another link by association where people who associated with and were the several owners, a John Turner, then a Grocer, who sold to John Spencer (per Land Tax & Deed Memorial Registrations), the house tenanted by John Hood, Mariner 82 yrs (buried Selby 1819) fully link by marriages to a young heiress named on an 1838 property Deed of a number of properties being sold to my George Hood, which George sold on to separate buyers.
Then I have this other Hood line forward from George Hood of Selby (George Hood born about 1785/6 from his 1815 marriage and his 1845 death ages) which comes forward to Philip Howard Hood, who marries a Turner (partly traced backward in my first post), my inquisitiveness was immediately jangling, with a question in my mind, perhaps the Turner wife of Philip Howard Hood also links back across this gap somehow to Charles Turner and nee Maudland Hood, their missing daughter Frances, although I'm not sure yet, just investigating.
I'll have a look at all those records you have all found, thank you :)
Mark