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Title: probate records
Post by: mudmonster on Monday 09 June 25 11:34 BST (UK)
Hello again,Do the actual Probate records  show who  benefits from the deceased ,ie:- the  names of the people or will it be exactly the same as the record on the probate register in 1922 that I can access
Thanks Mud
Ps apologies if I have worded this wrong
Title: Re: probate records
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 09 June 25 11:36 BST (UK)
The index only shows the executors, the will names the beneficiaries
Title: Re: probate records
Post by: mudmonster on Monday 09 June 25 12:43 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie99,how would you go about finding the will if there was one? and what is meant by administration on the modern one's .Thanks Mud
Title: Re: probate records
Post by: jorose on Monday 09 June 25 13:09 BST (UK)
Administration means there was no will.

In this case, (if you're talking about https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/ ) there's little point in ordering the record, the grant of administration will not have anything more useful than what's on the index.

Title: Re: probate records
Post by: mudmonster on Monday 09 June 25 14:30 BST (UK)
Thanks Jorose , I will probably apply for the probate records and see what it says
Title: Re: probate records
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 09 June 25 15:42 BST (UK)
Does the entry show "grant & will"  If it does you can download a copy of the actual will for £1.50

If it says "Administration" you will get no info re beneficiaries as it means the deceased didn't leave a will
Title: Re: probate records
Post by: mudmonster on Monday 09 June 25 15:57 BST (UK)
Thanks CaroleW ,got a few to do , I don't think any of them say grant & will,few say probate and I think one says  Administration
Title: Re: probate records
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 09 June 25 16:25 BST (UK)
If it says probate then there was a will
Title: Re: probate records
Post by: Andy J2022 on Monday 09 June 25 17:03 BST (UK)
Just for the sake of completeness, there is also something called a grant of administration with will annexed. This occurs when, for whatever reason, the executor is unable to gain the grant of probate. This might be because:
    The appointment of the executor in the will may not have been correctly drafted;
    The will may be valid but the deceased did not appoint an executor;
    The executor may have died before the deceased or renounced;
    The executor may have been passed over by the courts.
Letters of administration can then be applied for by someone else who would ordinarily be expected to carry out the testator's intentions as set out in the will, but they would not be called the executor.
Title: Re: probate records
Post by: mudmonster on Tuesday 10 June 25 10:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Andy and CaroleW,I think I will get the one's showing Probate ,never know might get a hit on missing relatives
Mud