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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Zaphod99 on Friday 06 June 25 17:29 BST (UK)
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I've searched old messages, and found mentions of this family, but nothing that helps me.
I'm looking for three brothers in Hartlepool in 1891. Edward, James & William Dovenor,
At ages 19,18 & 21, they were boarding at 10, Redworth Street in 1901, RG13/4640.
They were the sons of William Dovenor & Jane Wilson, married in Stockton in the June qtr 1864. As well as the boys, they also had several daughters who all died in infancy, including the sad tale on this attached cutting. I'd also like to find William & Jane, the parents, in 1871.
The family is at Stockton Street, Hartlepool in 1881, RG11/4910
I have tried endless alternative spellings, wild card searches etc. If anyone finds these people, please say how you found them, as I am bewildered.
Zaph
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Are the parents alive in 1881?
As the boys were quite young I would check the grandparents first if you haven’t already. Often young children were with grandparents on a census.
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Found the parents in 1871
Ancestry indexed as Dooner!!!!!
Abode Tate's Buildings, Back Street
Civil parish Stainton
Town South Stockton
County/Island Durham
Country England
Registration District Stockton
Sub-registration district Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel 45
Household schedule number 26
Piece 4900
Folio 119
Page number 10
William 33 born Doddington!!!! (Darlington)Has got a big smudge on it though
Jane. 29 born Durham, DUR
Jane Ann 4 born So(uth) Stockton Yks
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Ditto - just found them on FindMyPast, also transcribed as Dooner. To be fair - it does look a bit like Dooner.
The surname has been written as Dovner.
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Oh well Dooners!
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1891
In the household of Sarah Waseve (I think)
RG 12/ 4062/18/29
24 Jersey Street, Stranton
William Doverner, visitor, single 15, general labourer, Durham Hartlepool
(William was 3 in 1881)
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1891
In the household of Peter Hyson
RG 12/4082/17/4
38 Wood Hut, Cotherstone, Teesdale
Thomas Dovener, boarder, single, 16, general labourer, Durham Hartlepool
(I see Thomas was 5 in 1881 so this fits :-\ )
Oops, got this wrong - you don't seem to be looking for Thomas - sorry :-[
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Always useful to track down and check the siblings. Ann is with Thomas. Jane is with her future husband. No sign of the boys
Looks like the father died in 1888, so possibilities include mother remarrying and being indexed under stepfather's surname not found evidence of that yet) or being in an institution listed by just their initials
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No sign of the boys
Don't you think the William I found in 1891 is the right one?
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Sorry, meant the ones we hadn't found so far. William looks a match
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I already have Thomas and Ann in Catherstone.
In 1871 I search for DOONER but only get DOWNER & DEGNER.
In 1891 I get "Your Search for Doverner returned zero good matches".
That seems very odd.
How did you find the details you gave, please?
Zaph
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No sign of the boys
Don't you think the William I found in 1891 is the right one?
Yes, that's one of them. Thank you.
I tried endless wild searches!
Zaph
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https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7619/records/10308551?tid=&pid=&queryId=89c813a9-597e-4398-9b7f-70e6a540ba11&_phsrc=DYR28162&_phstart=successSource
Above is 1871 .Found by looking for a William born Co Durham living in Hartlepool indexed with a weird last name :)
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In 1871 I search for DOONER but only get DOWNER & DEGNER.
That is strange because he is transcribed as William Dooner on both Ancestry and FindMyPast. I just did a simple search for William Dooner on Ancestry and he came out top of the list :-\
To find him I noted that the two daughters with him in 1881 had been born in Stockton. So it seemed possible that he'd been living there in 1871.
So i searched for a William D*r in Stockton born c. 1836. Dooner looked like a possible match, and so it was :)
In 1891 I get "Your Search for Doverner returned zero good matches".
Did you search using the census reference I gave? That should find him.
If you are using Ancestry you will find him as William Doveanes.
I found him on FindMyPast where he is transcribed as William Doverner.
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Jen, I have William's dob as 1878,
DOVENOR, WILLIAM EDWARD (WILSON) GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 125
but his age in 1891 is given as 15. Do you think that that is just a clumsy error? I do think it's the right boy.
How did you find him? Thank you.
Zaph
1891
In the household of Sarah Waseve (I think)
RG 12/ 4062/18/29
24 Jersey Street, Stranton
William Doverner, visitor, single 15, general labourer, Durham Hartlepool
(William was 3 in 1881)
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How did you find him? Thank you.
As per my previous reply, I found him on FindMyPast. I searched William Dov*r living in either Hartlepool or Stockton Registration Districts, and had only three results, two named Dover and the third Doverner :D
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Thanks Jen, that was slightly different to your earlier reply, which threw me.
Did you have any luck with any more of the three boys?
Zaph