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Title: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: briann1 on Friday 06 June 25 13:26 BST (UK)
I have marriage certificates in Sunderland of Mary Greenwell on 22/7/1845, also her brother Joseph Greenwell on 2/7/1853 and on both certificates they state father as Henderson Greenwell. I can not find a birth, marriage, death or census of their father Henderson Greenwell. I do know their mother is Jane Greenwell and by census details they come from Chester-Le-Street to Sunderland.
Can anyone help trace Henderson Greenwell.
Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: heywood on Friday 06 June 25 13:57 BST (UK)
Who did Mary and Joseph marry?
Do you have them in 1841 census?
Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 06 June 25 13:58 BST (UK)
Is there an occupation for their father on the certificates?

Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: briann1 on Friday 06 June 25 14:06 BST (UK)
Mary married James Drummond, Joseph married Isabella Thompson. In 1841 census for Chester-Le-Street Jane 44, Mary 22 and Joseph 10 were together,
Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: briann1 on Friday 06 June 25 14:08 BST (UK)
For Mary fathers was a shoemaker, for Joseph he was labourer deceased
Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: heywood on Friday 06 June 25 14:13 BST (UK)
Looking at a published tree, perhaps yours, there is a baptism for Joseph where mother, Jane is described as a single woman.
Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: fiddlerslass on Friday 06 June 25 14:23 BST (UK)
Baptism of Mary states she was illegitimate child of Jane Greenwell chr Chester le street 8 Sept 1822, born at High Flatts . No mention of a father. Here's the BT

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-63J7-KG8?wc=9K59-JWP%3A13618101%2C16337901%2C17283302%26cc%3D1309819&cc=1309819&lang=en&i=32

Possibly the father was a Henderson or had the first name Henderson. Or he could be a made up person! Have you checked the Durham county record offices catalogue for a bastardy bond?

Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: briann1 on Friday 06 June 25 14:29 BST (UK)
I found both those births on Durham bishops transcripts and I think Henderson is probably a made up name, I was just revisiting my tree and thought I’d have another go at putting things right.
Thanks all
Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: fiddlerslass on Friday 06 June 25 14:32 BST (UK)
One possibility

There's a Henderson Lax, shoemaker, unmarried in Chester-le -street in 1851 b. Abt 1795

Household schedule number    46
Piece    2394
Folio    119
Page number    9

DNA could be the way forward.
Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 06 June 25 15:57 BST (UK)
Or if Greenwell was the mothers name and she was unmarried perhaps Henderson was a nod to the fathers surname  :-\
Title: Re: Henderson Greenwell (help)
Post by: briann1 on Friday 06 June 25 16:55 BST (UK)
I can see a Jane Greenwell from C/L/S born to Robert and Isabel in 1797, could be her. I’m feeling the illegitimate birth of Mary and Joseph to a single Jane could be the ones for me.