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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: deoxy on Thursday 05 June 25 12:13 BST (UK)
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Hello I’m looking for the birth entry of Frederick Joseph Frecknall/Frecknell baptised 3 May 1846 resident Bedmister. Born 3 April 1846. Birthplace according to the census is Bristol. Mother’s maiden name Nelson. I was hoping to get his birth certificate. I can’t find him on FreeBmd or in the GRO records.
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GRO give Hobson as mother's maiden name for that 1868 birth registration.
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GRO give Hobson as mother's maiden name for that 1868 birth registration.
Sorry Bumbleb just seen your post but have amended my original post above :)
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Being pedantic, I know, but Bedminster was in Somerset until 1889.
The River Avon used to be the border between Somerset & Gloucestershire.
Indeed Somerset County Cricket Club used to play matches at Imperial Athletic Ground in Knowle, and at Brislington CC.
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Thanks gc1 and Bumblebee. That Frederick is his son.
Thanks also KGarrad. That’s useful to know.
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His middle name is Joseph but so far I can’t find anything by reversing his names.
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Please can you tell us which census you have found.
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The bap transcript gives mother as Elizabeth. You don't say why you believe Elizabeth's maiden name was NELSON. Is is possible she wasn't married to the baptismal father and was just calling herself Elizabeth FRECKNALL? Have you ruled out the Frederic Joseph EDWARDS Clifton dist birth, GRO has no MMN suggesting that child was illegitimate.
Jane :-)
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Is this Frederick living as a nephew with this older brothers with the Radford family in Worksop in 1851 - after their parents died??
Isaac Radford 55
Lyddin Radford 56
Joseph Radford 19
William Frecknell Nephew 14 b Worksop
George Frecknell Nephew 16 b Worksop
John Frecknell Nephew 7 Southwell
Frederick Frecknell Nephew 5 b Bristol
His older brother John's birth ?? - Maybe a family problem resulted in Frederick's birth reg being forgotten :-\
FRECKNALL, JOHN NELSON mmn NELSON
GRO Ref: 1843 M Qrtr SOUTHWELL Vol 15 Page 665
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Thanks K99. Yes it is. He and his brothers were taken in by their Mums sister Lydia and her husband Isaac after their widowed Mum died in 1850.
His Dad had died in 1848. Like you say maybe something made them overlook registering his birth although back then according to Google they were expected to register a birth within 42 days. Maybe something happened to the record or it could be a mistake in the surname. I’ve seen quite a few strange versions of Frecknall.