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Title: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
Post by: goldie61 on Saturday 31 May 25 23:43 BST (UK)

A few occupations here please.

from 1575
Jacques Patte is a master ?

And Jacques Laurens is I think an 'espichier' - a spelling of 'epicier', grocer?

1618
What's Jehan Duvivier's occupation?
'Organistre'? Google translate tells me 'Organiser'?

Many thanks

Title: Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 01 June 25 00:36 BST (UK)

Charctier may be the modern charcutier, a pork butcher. Organistre would be an organist. However, these words may have changed their meanings slightly over the years. A French expert will doubtless come along and prove me wrong!

Title: Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 01 June 25 01:20 BST (UK)

Espicier is
terme accolé à apothicaire qui rappelle que les matières premières pour la fabrication de médicaments venaient en partie des épices précieuses à travers la fameuse route de la Soie 

Title: Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
Post by: jayaygee on Sunday 01 June 25 08:40 BST (UK)

Jacques Patte is a "maître charetier" (today charretier) = a carter
espichier - yes, I think it is épicier who sold spices, sugar, honey, etc according to this site :
 https://www.vieuxmetiers.org/

Title: Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 01 June 25 09:20 BST (UK)

Snipped from Abel Boyer's 1702 "Diçtionnaire Royal, Francois et Anglois; ....."

Title: Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
Post by: goldie61 on Sunday 01 June 25 12:10 BST (UK)

Thanks for everybody's replies.

I had wondered about 'organist' - I thought 'organiser' from Google a little unlikely!
But I wondered of they had organs and organists in 1618.
Wikipeadia tells me that organs have been around a long, long time, and it looks quite feasible that there were organs in churches, at this time.

That looks like an informative site jaygee, and also the 1702 Dictionary hanes teulu.
Thanks for those.
Interesting where this genealogy stuff takes you!  :)

Title: Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
Post by: brigidmac on Sunday 01 June 25 21:55 BST (UK)

could it be someone who plays the organ

i thought of a church organist but how about an organ grinder ?
with or without a monkey.

that could be a totally different word in French 

edit * hey goigle " tells me its a jouer de orgue

could a church organist be a full time job

Title: Re: Three French occupations (Rodiere transcripts)
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 02 June 25 09:15 BST (UK)

Quote from: brigidmac on Sunday 01 June 25 21:55 BST (UK)

could a church organist be a full time job

Thomas Tomkins - appointed organist at Worcester Cathedral 1596