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Title: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: izonme on Thursday 29 May 25 21:41 BST (UK)
Looking for information of parents and grandparents of Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892

Any information I would be grateful, thanks!
Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 29 May 25 22:07 BST (UK)
Where was she born? And is this the correct date of birth
LM
Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 29 May 25 22:07 BST (UK)
I think her surname is MalliNson

marries     Auguste Desire Pennellier in 1919 - states father John, deceased, a builder

1901 - in Tottenham/St Johns Wood

John Mallinson 48  carpenter b Holborn
Winifred Mallinson  47  b Deptford
Fred F Mallinson  18 b Pimlico
John H Mallinson 15  b Pimlico
Jessie Mallinson   11  b Pimlico
Cissy E Mallinson    9   b Pimlico
Margaret Mallinson   5 b Tottenham
Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 29 May 25 22:10 BST (UK)
John Mallinson,     27
Father     George Mallinson, ?? keeper

Winifred Hayler, 25. Cook
Father William Hayler, Miller

Marriage     27 Jul 1879    St Saviour, St George's Square, Pimlico

Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 29 May 25 22:19 BST (UK)
John's parents are George and Susannah nee Goullee

Winfred's parents are William and Sarah
Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallinson b.1892
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 30 May 25 00:31 BST (UK)
www.freebmd.org.uk

Births Dec qtr 1891   
MALLINSON    Cissy Elizabeth         St. Geo. H. Sq.    1a   460 

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp - mothers maiden name Hayler
Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 30 May 25 13:37 BST (UK)
Hi
1901  census 36 Priory Road Tottenham
John Mallinson 48 carpenter Holborn
Winifred 47 Deptford
Fred F 18 postman Pimlico
John H 15 camera factory Pimlico
Jessica 11
Cissie E 9
Margaret 5 Tottenham

1891 49 Tachbrrok St
John 30 carpenter
Winifred 37
Winifred H 9
Frederick George 8
John H 5
Jessie 1

1881 49 Tachbrook St
John 28 carpenter and Winifred 27 plus 3 lodgers
1871 4 Bloomgate St
George Mallinson 57 ? flap keeper ? aldgate
Susannah 57 ? seller Aldgate
Arthur 22 carpenter
Samuel 20 butcher
John 18 builders lab
Ann 16
Thomas 13
Henry Gonilee 9
Frank 2

1861 same address wit extra children Richard 16 carpenter and George 14 butcher
1851 5 Queenst Crt St Giles in the Fields
George lab 31 Aldgate
Susannah 31 Whitechapel
George 4
Arthur 2
Samuel 4mths.

The couple married St Giles Cripple gate 4.7.1843
George Mallinson french polisher Barbican  Richard ? occupation shop keeper
Susannah Goulee Barbican Samuel Goullee Cook
wit William Young and Ann Mallinson

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 30 May 25 14:50 BST (UK)
Really struggling with Hayler side
Winifred and Elizabeth both bapt Pimlico 9.5.1873 born 15.12.1853 and 4.12.1855.

William Hayler miller  of St Johns s of William farmer
married 12.5.1845 Horsley Downs
Sarah Strange St Johns  d of John Baker
wit John Newland and Martha Strange

1861 census 7 Morrison Place Woolwich
Eliza Sanderson wid 47 prop of Houses Gt Yarmouth visitors
Sarah Haley 37 widow cook in Gents Hose St Luke Middlesex
Winifred 7 Kent Woolwich

Elizabeth off visiting Norris family.

1871 Winifred sister in law to a Frederick Strange born 1836 St Lukes Middlesex  but I can't see any of the earlier Stranges or William Hayler.

Where are they?

Ciderdrinker

Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 30 May 25 15:31 BST (UK)
Hi
I got them
1851 census 5 Deptford Bridge
William Thayler/Hayler 30 journeyman miller Billingshurst
Sarah 31 St Lukes
Fred Strange 13 errand boy St Lukes

1841 Isleworth Mill
William Hayler 20 journey man miller N

Sarah's is a late baptism at Finsbury 18.9.1850 born 1818 d of John and Mary carman Ingram Row
Sisters Martha and Emma born 1826 and 1824 carman of Windsor Place 27.8.1847.

!841 census Blue Anchor Alley St Luke
John Strange 50 lab N
Mary 55 y
Martha 13 y
Fred 4 y

They seem to have died 1840's and I can't spot an obvious marriage.

But that should give you a good start.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 30 May 25 21:19 BST (UK)
Frederick Strange
Birth        13 Jun 1837
Baptism    2 Oct 1842  Saint Luke Old Street,Finsbury,
Father    John Strange
Mother    Sarah

I wonder if Sarah has made up a father's name for the baptism of her son?

That would make Winifred his half sister, which could potentially be described a sister in law back then
Title: Re: Cissy Elizabeth Mallison b.1892
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 31 May 25 11:17 BST (UK)
Brill !
That would make so much sense.

I've also got some deaths
John Strange St Luke June 1848 age 63
Mary Strange St Luke Dec 1848 age 68
William Hayler Greenwich Mar 1858 age 39

It looks like John and Mary's marriage may be
John Strange and Mary Norris 17.9.1809 at St James Clerkenwell .Wit William Norris and Josh Penny.
It would explain why Elizabeth Hayler was visiting John Norris born 1805 Stepney in 1861.
It looks like John was son of John and Sarah Norris bapt 2.6.1805 born 12.3.1805 lab.His father John brother of Mary Norris .
John s of John and Mary Norris smith Finsbury 12.1.1777 and sister Mary Norris 4.6.1781 age 2 .Born 25.11.1779.

Ciderdrinker