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Hi, I'm trying to find information about the death of my great grandfather George Doig.
I've seen his birth certificate, he was born in 1861 in Forfar, and his marriage cert to Rebekah (Rebeca) in 1893 but Scotlands People have no record of his death.
I found the following - George appears in 1901 census but doesn't in 1911. He's in the 1902/03 Val Roll at 72 Yeaman St. He was a painter and decorator.
He advertised in the Forfar Herald until 3 July 1903. He appears in the Forfar directory and yearbook 1903 (published 1902) page 12 as a male householder on Jamieson St and advertises his business on page 162 at 137 East High St. His name is scored through on the index of advertisers on page 2. He doesn't appear in the 1904 (published 1903) directory but 'Mrs George Doig' does as a female householder on page 39, at 58 Dundee Loan.
Do I assume therefor that that's as far as I can go and assume he died in 1903? Are there other
sources to check?
Any advice or information gratefully received.
Al
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Either died or left the area or both (e.g. sometimes men emigrated ahead of the rest of the family but then tragedy struck before the wife and kids could follow)
Perhaps his death is just badly transcribed on indexes.
Probate records could be another source; if he left a will or enough of an estate. These would be in the jurisdiction of the estate, even if he died elsewhere.
It looks like from www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk in the Dundee Courier around 07 July 1903 there are references to the contents of his shop being up for sale. Death, bankruptcy or selling up ahead of emigration?
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There are two items in the 7 July 1903 issue of the Dundee Courier
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For info. not that this helps with the death of George DoigSnr.
No mention of his father
George Doig Age 19
Death Date 11 Nov 1917
Cemetery Duisans British Cemetery, Etrun
Burial Country France
Regiment Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Regimental Number S/18101
Region or Memorial France
Mother Rebecca Doig of 31 Cleghorn St., Dundee
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56074063/george-doig
same address for Rebecca when she died 1928
Rebecca Chalmers Doig
Death Date 15 Sep 1928 Dundee, Scotland
Confirmation Date 2 Nov 1928 to son Isaac Fletcher Doig, next of kin
Scotland, National Probate Index (Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories), 1876-1936
UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929
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About my reply#2: what is the significance of the reference to a Trust Estate in the sale of the business?
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Thanks all. Very helpful. :)
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Can I ask if you know his mother's maiden name? Thanks
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I am not related but this appears to be his Parents Marriage;
4 Jul. 1859 Forfar, Angus
Flora DOIG to John DOIG
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Marriage is on Familysearch.Org;
John Doig, Age 70, Widowed, Linen Manufacturer
Father's Name James Doig/Mother's Name Mary Murdoch Doig
Flora Doig, Age 28, Single, Domestic Servant
Father's Name James Doig/Mother's Name Jean Sangster Doig
4 Jul 1859, Forfar, Forfarshire, Scotland
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Floras parents in 1861 in Forfar;
James Doig 56 Head Mar Linen Handloom Weaver born Musselburgh, Edinburghshire
Jean Sangster 58 Wife Mar born North Leigh, Edinburghshire
Marjory Doeg 25 Daughter
James Lowson 7 Grandaughter (Granddaughter)
Thomas Malcolm 3 mths Grandson
According to a Tree (who don't have this Census) the Granddaughter is a child of Flora
On F/S she also had 2 daughters after John Doig died Agnes and Susan (from memory Agnes died early)
1851 the Family is under DOY on Ancestry
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JAMES Doig
Death 26 December 1865
Forfar, Angus, Scotland
Birth 1805
Parents Janet Jamieson Doig, James Doig
Spouses Jean Sangster
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Apologies for taking so long to respond.
I agree with all the findings apart from a couple in #9 but I'm still learning and happy to be taught.
"On F/S she also had 2 daughters after John Doig died Agnes and Susan (from memory Agnes died early)"
I agree with Agnes as she was born in South St, Forfar, but Susan was born in Dundee. Is the fact that Flora Doig is an unusual name, enough to assume it's the same person? Flora is still listed in 1871 Forfar census.
"1851 the Family is under DOY on Ancestry"
There are only 13 entries for DOY in the 1851 census and none are from Forfar - I think this is a mistake! but I don't have access to Ancestry to check.
Al
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There is a George Doig listed in the 'Scotland, National Probate Index (Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories), 1876-1936' in 1903 (there's also one for 1904). Is anyone able to confirm if the death place is Forfar and the death date?
Thanks
Al
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Hi Al,
Transcript on Ancestry;
1851 Census
Tornshaven, Forfar, Angus
James Doy 45 Head Hand Loom Weaver (flax) born Musselburgh, Midlothian
Jane Doy 50 Wife born Leith, Midlothian
John Doy 17 Daughter born HLW born Depart, fifeshire
Mary Doy 16 Daughter HLW born Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire
George Doy 11 Son Scholar born Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire
James Doy 7 Son born Forfar, Forfarshire
So the Family got around according to birth places.
As I said a transript may be worth looking at image on Scotlandspeople to see if this is Flora:
John Doy 17 Daughter*** born HLW born Depart, fifeshire
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Hi Trish,
I'm confused.
Scotland's People 1851 census one has one James Doy aged 71 from Kirkcudbright and only one James Doy born at all in Scotland, 1724 Kennoway. That's not even the same person.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Al
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Sorry I cant help there as dont have access to Scotland's People.
Cant you try searching without surname on there like you can on Ancestry?
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Thanks for your help so far.
For your future genealogy - It's free to search Scotland's Peoples indexes of BD&M and census and 6 credits to view/download an image (£10 for 40 credits).
Al
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Thanks for that but only have one Scottish line which I have pretty much tied up back to 1766. :)