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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: jamesm113 on Wednesday 28 May 25 08:20 BST (UK)
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I've been trying to locate a ship manifest record for one of my ancestors, Michael Borowski/Borovsky.
His 1916 declaration of intention that says he arrived in NYC on or about 18 Oct 1907: https://www.familysearch.org/en/memories/memory/205163629
His 1910 census says he arrived in 1907. He didn't live past 1918.
His declaration of intent says he was on the CC Voltaire (with Preduck? Augusta crossed out), and that he departed Hamburg, Germany.
His village was Rydoduby, in Galicia, Austria, now Ukraine. I suspect he was Polish (his baptism record was in a roman catholic register) - but his sisters baptism records were in greek catholic registers. I believe it was tradition for girls to follow their mother's church?
I found the list of ships that arrived from Hamburg in Oct 1907, but none of them are a perfect match: https://stevemorse.org/cgi-bin/boat.php?series=&rollStart=&rollEnd=&volumeStart=&volumeEnd=&monthStart=10&dayStart=&yearStart=1907&monthEnd=10&dayEnd=&yearEnd=1907&boatkind=starts&boat=&offset=1&portkind=starts&port=hamburg&pageSize=50&database=all&local=yes&auth=
Any advice or tips appreciated. Thanks!
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What was his birth year?
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Lloyds List, 29 Oct 1907
Lamport and Holt line - clearing Santos 16 Oct "fits" arriving New York 18th?
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See foot of col 4
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1907-10-30/ed-1/seq-14/#date1=1907&sort=relevance&date2=1907&searchType=advanced&language=&sequence=0&index=8&words=Voltaire&proxdistance=50&state=New+York&rows=20&ortext=&proxtext=voltaire&phrasetext=&andtext=&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=3
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Earlier sighting - mid col 3
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1907-10-10/ed-1/seq-14/#date1=1907&sort=relevance&date2=1907&searchType=advanced&language=&sequence=0&index=9&words=Voltaire&proxdistance=50&state=New+York&rows=20&ortext=&proxtext=voltaire&phrasetext=&andtext=&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=3
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nig_Friedrich_August_(Schiff)
Modified - URL supposed to deliver Wiki item re. Konig Friedrich August which launched 1906 and provided a passenger service Hamburg - South America.
mmmmm?
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There are:
Michal Brovowski age 20 arriving 18th October 1907 from Trieste, but the ship is Laura
Michael Borowski age 23 arriving 11 May 1907 from Hamburg, ship Arcadia
Michael Barowski age 35 arriving 8 July 1907 from Bremen, ship Barbarossa
all of these records have more details, but since none of them fits…
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Voltaire arrived NY Nov 7 1907 from Buenos Aires.
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Voltaire manifest includes 91 names, nothing even vaguely resembling Michael Barowski. Indeed there are very few Eastern Europeans, ~5 Russians.
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German Papers
Fremdenblatt, 13 Oct 1907
I think it has steamship KFA leaving Buenos Aires 5 Oct, Montivideo 6 Oct and should be expected Madeira 20 Oct &c reaching Hamburg 25 Oct (but certainly open to correction)
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You’ve lost me HT — where does this fit in?
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He mentions travelling on 2 ships - one sailed from Hamburg to South America, the other from South America to New York.
The Voltaire of the Lamport and Holt line was confined to South American cargo/passenger trade.
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OK, got it, missed the two ships part! So what ship are we expecting him to arrive at NY in?
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He mentions the Fredrick Auguste (crossed out) and the C C Voltaire.
The Voltaire was restricted to the New York - Montivideo route, the Fredrick Auguste sailed Hamburg - South America.
I was looking for sailings that fitted around his declared "18 Oct 1907" - with the Voltaire completing the 2nd leg.
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I tried a few different ways on stevemorse.org also and didn't find him.
You said you found the list of ships that arrived from Hamburg in Oct 1907. Did you look at the Kaiserin Auguste Victoria on that list. That might be close enough for someone who wasn't Austrian.
The only other suggestion I have is to narrow down the time frame - when was he last seen in Galicia, when was he first seen in the U.S. - earlier than 1910? If he had children born in the US, when were they born?
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Snipped from the Turner County Herald, 10 Oct 1907
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Sailing dates for NY
Berliner Börsen Zeitung 19 Sep 1907
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Wow, was not expecting such a big response. Thank you all!
What was his birth year?
He was born and baptized 28 October 1889 in Austria. He later stated his birthday was 13 Oct 1889 in the US.
I tried a few different ways on stevemorse.org also and didn't find him.
You said you found the list of ships that arrived from Hamburg in Oct 1907. Did you look at the Kaiserin Auguste Victoria on that list. That might be close enough for someone who wasn't Austrian.
I haven't looked through any microfilms yet. I've done index searches and come up empty. Was hoping to narrow down the ship before I take a look. I'll take a look at that one!
The only other suggestion I have is to narrow down the time frame - when was he last seen in Galicia, when was he first seen in the U.S. - earlier than 1910? If he had children born in the US, when were they born?
I have only found his baptism record in 1889 in Galicia.
The first record I have in the US is his 23 August 1909 marriage in Lansford, PA. His first child was born 19 June 1910, and last child born 1 July 1917. He died 25 Oct 1918 (spanish flu)
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He mentions travelling on 2 ships - one sailed from Hamburg to South America, the other from South America to New York.
Sorry, I think I missed where he mentioned that? Or you think the fact that he crossed out the first ship implies he took 2 ships?
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The wording of the form is “I emigrated to the USA from <Hamburg Germany> on the vessel..”
so you can imagine someone of a literal turn of mind entering the name of the vessel in which he left Hamburg, rather than the vessel in which he arrived in the USA. Then, somehow that got corrected.
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The Voltaire traded with South America from New York - no Hamburg connection. The Fredrick August traded with South America - no New York connection. The Kaiserin Auguste sailed Hamburg - New York with no South America connection.
Had he arrived on the Voltaire no question of him boarding at Hamburg. Had he boarded the Frederick August in Hamburg no question of him arriving New York aboard that vessel. I had checked the wording of the question where the Fredrick August was crossed out in case it referred to "vessel arrived in" or similar and he was answering as literally as he could. Did wonder why he might have opted for change of vessel when direct sailing available - cost?
Couldn't see him processed at Ellis Island - assuming he was third class/steerage.
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FWIW, I searched for all passengers arriving in NY on the Kaiserin Auguste Victoria in Oct 1907 with Austrian/Polish/Ukrainian/Hungarian/Ruthenian ethnicities who's first name started with "Mi" and were born between 1882 and 1895 and didn't spot him.
I'm not sure I 100% believe the day of the month is accurate, but I'm not sure how much weight I should put into the ship names he listed, as well as the month/year listed.
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In that era, they would check the ship's manifest to see if the person seeking naturalization arrived as they said they did. (More info about that here - https://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/occ/) However, it sounds like he might have passed away before finishing the naturalization process, so it might not have ever gotten that far.
I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he traveled in a different year or sailed into a different port. Sometimes people forgot or got confused.
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I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he traveled in a different year or sailed into a different port. Sometimes people forgot or got confused.
Agreed - ages, YoB &c notoriously suspect. Did spot a Barowski on the Kaiserin August Victoria ( which is now in the frame), but year 1910, given name Mateus.
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I found a large number of Borowskis from Rydoduby on the Graf Waldersee in May 1903: https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/engine/gold.php?uid=17485430905511748543124491&referrer=httpsstevemorse.orgellis2ellisgold.html&mode=running&time=1748545352369&arrivalPort=ellisgold&email=&firstkind=close&FNM=&kind=sounds&LNM=borowski&companionkind=close&CNM=&townkind=close&town=&SHP=graf&prtkind=close&PRT=&SYR=1903&EYR=1903&MONTH=&DAY=&SAGE=&EAGE=&offset=1&MRTL=&BSYR=&BEYR=&pagesize=50&CGD=&FLD=name&FLD=age&FLD=smanifest&FLD=town&FLD=myoa&FLD=sex&FLD=passrec&FLD=ship&FLD=marital&FLD=image&FLD=port&FLD=yob&SRT=name&DIRECTION=asc
Image link (https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/mm.htm?back=https%3A%2F%2Fstevemorse.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fboat.php%3Fseries%3D%26rollStart%3D%26rollEnd%3D%26volumeStart%3D%26volumeEnd%3D%26monthStart%3D5%26dayStart%3D%26yearStart%3D1903%26monthEnd%3D5%26dayEnd%3D%26yearEnd%3D1903%26boatkind%3Dstarts%26boat%3DGraf%26offset%3D1%26portkind%3Dstarts%26port%3D%26pageSize%3D50%26database%3Dall%26local%3Dyes%26auth%3D&series=1&roll=353&frame=222&display=true) and higher quality image (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G165-1WJ?view=fullText&keywords=Borowski&lang=en&groupId=)
The "Rydona" family were Michael's uncle/aunt/cousins - they all wound up in Canada.
I don't recognize the families from "Bdodaby" or "Rydoduby" - most likely distant relatives.
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I was able to figure out who the other Borowskis were on Family Search, but records don't go far enough back to prove they were related.
Following one of those families, I found a wonderful personal account of their voyage. Saying that Canadian immigration officials their village a ticket to basically a village at the end of railroad in Manitoba.
Trying to understand why 3 families, including his uncle and cousins, all traveled on the same ship to Canada in 1903, but my ancestor decided to go to Pennsylvania, likely on his own, a few years later... (https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/memories/MMVY-D92)