RootsChat.Com
Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: liverpoolgenealogy on Sunday 25 May 25 01:10 BST (UK)
-
Can anyone work out what the groom's residence is? The bride's is Penrhyn. Any help is much appreciated. :)
-
Maybe Pentrefelin.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/gazetteer?place=Pent&county=123&search_type=3&display_type=1
-
Thank you for your response :)
If like the link suggests there are only 3 locations in Anglesey beginning with Pent then I have to agree it is Pentrefelin, with the spelling a little different on the record, I think I can see Pentrefilhin. Wasn't sure of some of the last letters though.
Thank you. :)
-
I think it reads Pentre heilin. Compare the h in Penrhyn? I can't see an f in it, so I don't think it is Pentrefelin.
The Welsh pentre means 'village', so it would be rather surprising if there were only 3 places in Anglesey starting with Pentre...
I would look a little further. There are plenty of Welsh speakers on RC, so maybe post this on a Welsh board (with a link to this thread).
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/anglesey/
-
I'd say Bookboks was right - see https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/search?q=Pentre+h&cty=fc283b2a-cfcc-4fec-a2ae-4bed2eb34d12&par=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&src=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&yrf=&__Invariant=yrf&yrt=&__Invariant=yrt&Postcode=&dst=500&g-recaptcha-response=03AFcWeA6QnCZJifDFvjCnh5qrfgvMvK0KRAaSD_BZlk0TkA9UGHwE1r7Z97mKBdNMUt0EB4SS42_w1DM4QKIL-gmNWX4cRR63y-_91AOzE5vGAVmcNE1APt1y4kicbAJe--7LiqHnRUlBHJvA8jCf188994H18oYxYZyzr7s_RFvUUak5InstnxHKobvvybzn5590Azx7AlOSes5Nps14c5WESGpZFNPRRdUXPB0Tih5aem9f06NAqxv-aBW39kYOVGdT6G9nxM_0TC_xLxEKy2NIXQM6XIfq4c7tCis4QAP8y4vcX71uEpai8M74xPPnuv8rJXBvy9xtsnVWBYYo99aqAF-iiNUHk-aZsPnjNuJQr2m-fVtudRG2GWQWukM2naK3QdZJ3zqxsJi_GP6LM5OLDHzLCrHNISQIEx3xomxUvlskQZmzvkUv5iASPDzM_0Rr0AdwqFb9NWDUyFV_2WOXdxGvS6_p1gIT8jqvnRIr4cfsM_gH3jXRFJDFLIC964UHXYYZsIdyXsb6ulBvMBF2nEUpZsQ6DLs9M-1RzddTZjcH_g4verVLKXWDbjy8CKLXdAoDQkUOiTF8_lwLI1xx2LoEA0UFO2w8D7Q3Yijkej35RqtErKUM0CdChQ4MvIcuWhTAaJTsd93U0gqG_-8LS9gTHrjvLICvor9AH2tK6NE6o3eohQRxqtgG0ku9ry3Pho7i2pPxt_xOZW71CxP7yRGNkY0B5VoYpn4DuhoR4PkZOODaZSmKF27fzVme8wuVzW0isoy2e9DYKUwvZ0Lq6-J-WDCSZJuJ0v9poDTYzk1Yxjl4_5iPT3Lg0pJMRpW1vgtJrmOrerJ8iM62WcqkIF58kZJM3I7tUOJZcBvb2LoDjo4qShZrUT0Ud-X3pdszxgrK4_9K5_pzOlMLHeLhaZR7T2BONA-Pk5OXJQi_AhFQhIj4VoPIeLfb1HUox7mK45u21W5HDxeHmPF1E_tSnTQhgL15qoeJgdnJ3wGhtAVzCbgmz_Y
-
This is the site referred to in reply #4
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.6&lat=53.38316&lon=-4.42369&layers=168&b=ESRIWorld&o=100 (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.6&lat=53.38316&lon=-4.42369&layers=168&b=ESRIWorld&o=100)
-
https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/search?q=Pentre+h&cty=fc283b2a-cfcc-4fec-a2ae-4bed2eb34d12&par=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&src=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&yrf=&__Invariant=yrf&yrt=&__Invariant=yrt&Postcode=&dst=500&g-recaptcha-response=03AFcWeA6QnCZJifDFvjCnh5qrfgvMvK0KRAaSD_BZlk0TkA9UGHwE1r7Z97mKBdNMUt0EB4SS42_w1DM4QKIL-gmNWX4cRR63y-_91AOzE5vGAVmcNE1APt1y4kicbAJe--7LiqHnRUlBHJvA8jCf188994H18oYxYZyzr7s_RFvUUak5InstnxHKobvvybzn5590Azx7AlOSes5Nps14c5WESGpZFNPRRdUXPB0Tih5aem9f06NAqxv-aBW39kYOVGdT6G9nxM_0TC_xLxEKy2NIXQM6XIfq4c7tCis4QAP8y4vcX71uEpai8M74xPPnuv8rJXBvy9xtsnVWBYYo99aqAF-iiNUHk-aZsPnjNuJQr2m-fVtudRG2GWQWukM2naK3QdZJ3zqxsJi_GP6LM5OLDHzLCrHNISQIEx3xomxUvlskQZmzvkUv5iASPDzM_0Rr0AdwqFb9NWDUyFV_2WOXdxGvS6_p1gIT8jqvnRIr4cfsM_gH3jXRFJDFLIC964UHXYYZsIdyXsb6ulBvMBF2nEUpZsQ6DLs9M-1RzddTZjcH_g4verVLKXWDbjy8CKLXdAoDQkUOiTF8_lwLI1xx2LoEA0UFO2w8D7Q3Yijkej35RqtErKUM0CdChQ4MvIcuWhTAaJTsd93U0gqG_-8LS9gTHrjvLICvor9AH2tK6NE6o3eohQRxqtgG0ku9ry3Pho7i2pPxt_xOZW71CxP7yRGNkY0B5VoYpn4DuhoR4PkZOODaZSmKF27fzVme8wuVzW0isoy2e9DYKUwvZ0Lq6-J-WDCSZJuJ0v9poDTYzk1Yxjl4_5iPT3Lg0pJMRpW1vgtJrmOrerJ8iM62WcqkIF58kZJM3I7tUOJZcBvb2LoDjo4qShZrUT0Ud-X3pdszxgrK4_9K5_pzOlMLHeLhaZR7T2BONA-Pk5OXJQi_AhFQhIj4VoPIeLfb1HUox7mK45u21W5HDxeHmPF1E_tSnTQhgL15qoeJgdnJ3wGhtAVzCbgmz_Y
Very long URL link - RootsChat ShrinkLink ??
https://www.rootschat.com/links/
-
This is the Tithe entry - 1840s. Unfortunately "View apportionment" is not returning original screen -
https://places.library.wales/search/53.385/-4.426/18.00?refine=&page=1&rows=100&sort=score&order=desc&query=%22pentre+heilin%22
Welshnewspapers has a number of hits under alternative spellings - most of which, however, relate to the Sir Drefaldwyn property.
The name Roberts appears towards the end of the C19th/early C20th .
-
Thank you all for your responses! :) Both of those places aren't very far away from places I've known these particular ancestors to be. If general consensus is that it is Pentre Heilin then I'll happily take that. I have no idea with a lot of old handwriting, especially for Welsh locations!
About asking on the Anglesey board, this snippet appears in the topic I started over there about my ancestor, a kind member who was helping me posted an image asking where people thought it was, but those that helped out on that thread couldn't work it out, there were no responses to that particular reply. I don't wish to overburden Rootschatters if I can help it. :)
Thank you all. :)