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Title: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: Ellenmai on Saturday 24 May 25 14:25 BST (UK)
As John Henry Reed was born in Swansea 1/1/1862 but found on the 1871 Census living at Lewis Street Newport Monmouthshire, I wasn't sure where to put this, so thought The Common Room covered it. His Mother Mary F Reed on the 1871 Census was a widow born Ilfracombe Devon 1832 but has been transcribed St Pacomb on the Census. John Henry's Marrriage Certificate dated 25/12/1886 states his father Hubert Reed is deceased & profession had been a Contractor.
I can't find a marriage for Mary F & Hubert Reed in Swansea, Newport or Devon. One possible Baptism I have found is for John Henry Reed was 20/8/1862 Newport, Parents Herbert a Sawyer & Wife Mary Hannah living at 44 Dolphin Street Newport. I would very much appreciate some help with this.
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Saturday 24 May 25 14:47 BST (UK)
Birth registration for the 1862 John has mother's maiden name blank:

REED, JOHN  HENRY     - 
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in NEWPORT  Volume 11A  Page 166


Forgot John was born Swansea; jorose posted the correct one:

READ, JOHN  HENRY     TOMS 
GRO Reference: 1862  M Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 502

John's sister Thirza has mother's maiden name 'Toms':

REED, THIRZA  JANE     TOMS 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in NEWPORT  Volume 11A  Page 168

Thirza's parents on her baptism are also Herbert & Mary Hannah of Dolphin Street.

On the 1881 census with her 2 children, Mary is 'Mary H.' and born in Newport.

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 24 May 25 14:49 BST (UK)
As John Henry Reed was born in Swansea 1/1/1862 but found on the 1871 Census living at Lewis Street Newport Monmouthshire, I wasn't sure where to put this, so thought The Common Room covered it.

His Mother Mary F Reed on the 1871 Census was a widow born Ilfracombe Devon 1832 but has been transcribed St Pacomb on the Census.

 John Henry's Marrriage Certificate dated 25/12/1886 states his father Hubert Reed is deceased & profession had been a Contractor.

I can't find a marriage for Mary F & Hubert Reed in Swansea, Newport or Devon.

One possible Baptism I have found is for John Henry Reed was 20/8/1862 Newport, Parents Herbert a Sawyer & Wife Mary Hannah living at 44 Dolphin Street Newport. I would very much appreciate some help with this.

What was his mothers maiden name on his b/c

1871 census also has sibling Theresa born c1865 born Newport

and 1881 census

Mary H. Reed Age   45
Where born   Newport
Civil parish   St Woollos
Street Address   18 Up Lewis St
Condition as to marriage Widower

John H. Reed 19 Swansea occ moulder iron
Thurza J. Reed 16 Newport occ serv

There’s this possible GRO entry for Thirza

REED, THIRZA  JANE     mmn TOMS 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in NEWPORT  Volume 11A  Page 168

Posting whilst red writing - snap 😃


Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Saturday 24 May 25 14:51 BST (UK)
There's a Mary Ann Toms, daughter of Philip and Mary Ann, who is down on the 1851 census as being born in Ilfracombe, Devon in 1834. From at least 1841, the family is living in St Woollos, Newport. She also had a sister called Thirza.

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: jorose on Saturday 24 May 25 14:55 BST (UK)
There is also a Mar 1862 birth in Swansea for a John Henry Read (note spelling).
GRO indexes show that mother's maiden name is Toms
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: Ellenmai on Saturday 24 May 25 14:59 BST (UK)
Wow what a quick result thank you all very much, looks like Mum's maiden name was Toms & Father Herbert not Hubert. Really grateful for all your help today  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Saturday 24 May 25 15:00 BST (UK)
Possible marriage between a "Harbert Read" and "Mary Anna Thoms" in Newport in 1852. Can't currently find a parish register entry to confirm that these 2 married each other and not the other possible names on the civil registration index.

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 24 May 25 15:11 BST (UK)
Possible death.

REED, HERBERT       aged48 
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in NEWPORT  Volume 11A  Page 119

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Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 24 May 25 15:20 BST (UK)
Possible death.

REED, HERBERT       aged48 
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in NEWPORT  Volume 11A  Page 119

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If Herbert b abt 1816 this one would fit in 1851. But a widower with two young children

piece number 2452, Folio 189, Page 4
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 24 May 25 15:23 BST (UK)
and there’s this 1841 census entry

Harbert Reed age 24
Piece   1414 Folio 6 Page number   6
Ann Reed 25
John Reed 2
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 24 May 25 15:28 BST (UK)
Possible death.

REED, HERBERT       aged48 
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in NEWPORT  Volume 11A  Page 119

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If Herbert b abt 1816 this one would fit in 1851. But a widower with two young children

piece number 2452, Folio 189, Page 4

Trying to find him in 1861, should be with Mary IF they married 1852.

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Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 24 May 25 15:36 BST (UK)
Found as Bead
Piece number 4102
Folio 71
Page 33
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 24 May 25 15:36 BST (UK)
1861 RG9/  4102/71  p33


Herbert Bead   Head   Married 40    Haulier   Monmouthshire
Mary Hannah Bead   Wife   Married 29    -   Newport, Monmouthshire
Eliza Jane Hincliffe Visitor Married   23   House keeper Newport, Monmouthshire

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Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 24 May 25 15:38 BST (UK)
No red box LizzieL, posted same time

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Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 24 May 25 15:41 BST (UK)
No red box LizzieL, posted same time

SS ;D

i didn't grt a red box either, but it hung about a bit after I pressed send
Think Herbert jnr died Q3 1858
Title: Re: Looking for Parents of John Henry Reed
Post by: Ellenmai on Saturday 24 May 25 17:43 BST (UK)
Thank you all for the time you have spent on helping me out. Lots of info to me to work on, excellent stuff  :D