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Title: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: star sister 14 on Thursday 22 May 25 15:50 BST (UK)
can anyone help me or point in directions please.

i have the following.....

   Thomas Bee & Elizabeth Freeks 11 Nov 1716 marrying sometimes her surname is down as fooks.  in Waddington, Lincoln, England. thomas died 1776 waddington and elizabeth died 1758 waddington. how can i find who elizabeths parents are please as drawing a blank. any help greatly apricated thank you
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 22 May 25 16:41 BST (UK)
Linking to the register image on FindMyPast (sub required).

Her name certainly looks like Freeks.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FWADDINGTON_PAR_1_1%2F0996&parentid=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FMAR%2F00440810%2F1
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: ColC on Thursday 22 May 25 18:35 BST (UK)
The burials on freereg record the age, which was not always accurate.

Waddington: St Michael: Parish Register.
Elizabeth BEE Burial 17 Apr 1758 Age 70 (1688)

Thomas BEE Burial 9 Jan 1776 Age 84 (1692)

No baptism of the name Freeks in the County, nearest spelling below on freereg

Waddington, Lincolnshire is 6 miles  N of Leadenham, Lincolnshire.

Father John.
Elizabeth FRIAK Baptism 3 May 1691 Lincolnshire Leadenham : St Swithin : Parish Register

Colin
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: gc1 on Thursday 22 May 25 18:47 BST (UK)
The transcript on Family Search as her as Frooks ??? ???
But never trust a transcript also best to see the real thing as above

Name   Thomas Bee
Sex   Male
Spouse's Name   Elizabeth Frooks
Spouse's Sex   Female
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   11 Nov 1716
Event Place   Waddington, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFH4-4Y5?lang=en

Edit (just to prove a point)
The above links to a tree that has her listed as "Elizabeth Freer" ??? ??? ???
and married 1 May 1774 ??? ??? ?
BUT if you click on her name direct it goes to another tree where she is listed as Elizabeth Frooks ??? ???

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/landscape/GP4G-63M
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: gc1 on Thursday 22 May 25 19:01 BST (UK)
Possible Christening of Thomas listing parents in Waddington 1694 ??? ???
Based on rough DoB from ColC above death details (Thomas BEE Burial 9 Jan 1776 Age 84 (1692))

Name   Thomas Bee
Sex   Male
Father's Name   Robert Bee
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Elenour
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   10 Jun 1694
Event Place   Waddington, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFWV-QJF?lang=en
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: gc1 on Thursday 22 May 25 19:09 BST (UK)
An earlier one in 1688 again in Waddington but this also linked to above tree that has Elizabeth's name wrong ??? ???

Name   Thomas Bee
Sex   Male
Father's Name   Thomas Bee
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Elizabeth
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   15 Apr 1688
Event Place   Waddington, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQ9D-7B1?lang=en
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: DCB on Friday 23 May 25 10:23 BST (UK)
Two more similar names baptised in Leadenham, children of John and Susannah:-

Mary Froaks 23 Aug 1696
William Froakes/Freakes 7 Jan 1693

Susan Freaks buried 12 Dec 1709

Mary Freaks married Thomas Lilly on 28th January 1723 in Carlton Le Moorland

Jane Freak daughter of William and Ann baptised in Welbourn on 17th September 1721
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: ColC on Friday 23 May 25 10:29 BST (UK)
Waddington birth/baptisms, Thomas & Elizabeth (Tho & Eliz)

Ellen 11 Aug 1717/8 Sep 1717
Thos 11 Jan 1719/8 Feb 1719
Eliz 7 Dec 1720/8 Jan 1721
Robt 24 Dec 1721/21 Jan 1722 burial 1 Sep 1781 age 59
Susan 24 Aug 1725/29 Sep 1725 burial 26 Jan 1744
Mary 15 Jun 1731/11 Jul 1731 burial 15 Apr 1734 infant
Stephen 2 Apr 1733/8 Apr 1733

So if they followed the English naming pattern, from GC1 post, Thomas & Elizabeth would be the one for Thomas. This would leave Robert & Ellen for Elizabeth, if the record survived. However some varied the naming pattern.

Colin
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: gc1 on Friday 23 May 25 18:08 BST (UK)
Extra information

Did Thomas have an older Brother ???

Name   John Bee
Sex   Male
Father's Name   Robertt Bee
Father's Sex   Male
Event Type   Baptism
Event Date   17 May 1691
Event Place   Waddington, Lincolnshire, England

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGLS-2Z2N?lang=en
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: gc1 on Friday 23 May 25 18:13 BST (UK)
Following on from Colc above post of Thomas's children listed (Susan 24 Aug 1725/29 Sep 1725)
Here's a possible Thomas's sister ,Susana's, Christening that fits.

Name   Susana Bee
Sex   Female
Father's Name   Robertt Bee
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Elinyor
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   31 Oct 1697
Event Place   Waddington, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2KV-J5C?lang=en
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: gc1 on Friday 23 May 25 18:21 BST (UK)
And even a possible Stven brother to match (Stephen 2 Apr 1733/8 Apr 1733)

Name   Stven Bee
Sex   Male
Father's Name   Robert Bee
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Eleanor
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   12 Oct 1701
Event Place   Waddington, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFWV-QJ4?lang=en
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: gc1 on Friday 23 May 25 18:34 BST (UK)
Deleted wrong date Sorry ???
Title: Re: thomas bee and elizabeth
Post by: star sister 14 on Monday 26 May 25 14:03 BST (UK)
thank you i have some to go on. much appricated