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Title: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: Lavender13 on Monday 19 May 25 23:12 BST (UK)
Hi everyone. I have a marriage certificate and im trying to work out the occupation of the grooms father John Fox to help me locate the right family. I think at the start it starts with Dr.... but thats all ive got so far. Could anyone make it out please?
Title: Re: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: conahy calling on Monday 19 May 25 23:37 BST (UK)
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https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/cremorne/muckno/mullyash/drumacrib/

Title: Re: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 19 May 25 23:41 BST (UK)
Neither word is an occupation. There's been a mistake. The PP has put the townlands in again instead of the fathers' occupations.  Easier to see on the full certificate.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1923/09191/5324387.pdf
Title: Re: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: Lavender13 on Monday 19 May 25 23:48 BST (UK)
Oh yes I see that now. Well that's dissappointing! Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 19 May 25 23:54 BST (UK)
If you can find the 2 households in the 1911 census you should get fathers occupations from that, but I cannot immediately locate either.
Title: Re: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: Lavender13 on Tuesday 20 May 25 00:00 BST (UK)
Ive been able to find the family of Bernard Collins and his witness on marriage certificate Vincent Collins is in the household too and living at 11 Knocknaneen in Co. Monaghan with parents Thomas Collins, Tea Merchant,  and Catherine.

No sign of Kathleen Fox's family though. I'll keep searching 
Title: Re: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 20 May 25 06:18 BST (UK)
They have filled in the 1911 Census in Irish
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Monaghan/Mullyash/Drumacrib/803624/
But you can see the surname in English on the house and building return and the second image

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003116552/

1901 it’s in English

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Mullyash/Drumacrib/1630592/

Rose the witness for Kathleen marriied 1937

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1937/08901/5218872.pdf



Title: Re: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 20 May 25 08:22 BST (UK)

Quote from: Lavender13 on Tuesday 20 May 25 00:00 BST (UK)
Ive been able to find the family of Bernard Collins and his witness on marriage certificate Vincent Collins is in the household too and living at 11 Knocknaneen in Co. Monaghan with parents Thomas Collins, Tea Merchant,  and Catherine.

Vincent Peter Collins born 26 April 1910.  MMN Mone
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1910/01575/1634686.pdf

Marriage of Thomas Collins to Catherine Mone - 22 July 1893 - Keady RC Church.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10603/5862761.pdf


Title: Re: Irish marriage certificate handwriting
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 20 May 25 08:29 BST (UK)

Bernard Collins born 5 August 1901 at Keady.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1901/01946/1751902.pdf