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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Jillity on Monday 19 May 25 18:07 BST (UK)
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I'm trying to trace my family in Ireland, but I've hit a brick wall. I'm looking for information on the wife of one of my ancestors. I have the date of the marriage and their names but I can't find a lot more than that. The names are Knox and Wilson and there is a huge number of them in Ireland. Are the Dublin parish registers online anywhere, and can they be searched?
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What was the date of marriage?
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What religious denomination?
www.irishgenealogy.ie
Contains:
All Roman Catholic baptism, marriage and burial registers for Dublin City
All surviving Church of Ireland baptism records
Marriage and burial registers for Dublin City
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Same website, Civil Records
Birth register records – 1864 to 1924
Marriage register records – 1845 to 1949
Death register records – 1871 to 1974
Non-Roman Catholic Marriages are recorded from 1845 and Roman Catholic Marriages are recorded from 1864.
Due to data protection, birth records are only accessible when over 100 years old, marriage records are only accessible when over 75 years old and death records are only accessible when over 50 years old.
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What religious denomination?
www.irishgenealogy.ie
Contains:
All Roman Catholic baptism, marriage and burial registers for Dublin City
All surviving Church of Ireland baptism records
Marriage and burial registers for Dublin City
Most RC parishes- IrishGenealogy does not not cover St. Paul's RC (Arran Quay) Parish records
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What religious denomination?
www.irishgenealogy.ie
Contains:
All Roman Catholic baptism, marriage and burial registers for Dublin City
All surviving Church of Ireland baptism records
Marriage and burial registers for Dublin City
Most RC parishes- IrishGenealogy does not not cover St. Paul's RC (Arran Quay)
I was quoting from their website :D
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The date of the marriage was 1801. I'm on Ancestry and I've searched all the records I can find on other sites including John Knox's genealogy of the Knox family. All I can find is the wife's name, which was Hannah Wilson. I can't seem to find any trace of her family at all. I thought the parish registers might give that information. The family were settlers in Ireland and they were Church of Ireland.
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Unfortunately they seem to have mislaid the table listing parish and sources dates, and also the useful browse by parish function during the recent update, so less clear on exactly what they cover... unless it's hidden somewhere that I cant see
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The date of the marriage was 1801. I'm on Ancestry and I've searched all the records I can find on other sites including John Knox's genealogy of the Knox family. All I can find is the wife's name, which was Hannah Wilson. I can't seem to find any trace of her family at all. I thought the parish registers might give that information. The family were settlers in Ireland and they were Church of Ireland.
Then IrishGenealogy Church records section is the place to try, but bear in mind that 1801 is very early and not all CofI parish records survive so there's patchy coverage, also the site focuses on the city, and only has records for a few county Dublin parishes.
An early marriage would only usually include very basic details i.e. names of the couple and date, possibly witnesses.
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The basic information is in the records held on Ancestry. I was hoping some of the early parish records might be online, and might give a little more information. You only get the abstract on Ancestry. I tried looking at some family trees but they all seem to have copied each other and the information really isn't correct. They all have a marriage between an eight year old and Lady Mary Brabazon who was in her forties.
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Are you looking at the marriage licence bond records?
What is listed in them is usually all that exists now.
You can cross-reference the Dublin parishes on the RCB master list
https://www.churchofireland.org/about/rcb-library/catalogues/parish-records
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I have two sources. One is the Ireland, Abstracts of Wills and Marriages, 1620-1923, and the other is Ireland, Select Marriages, 1619-1898.
I had a look at the RCB list but I don't think the registers for the parish church of St Catherine's have been extracted anywhere.
The only other route is to try the newspapers, but I haven't found anything on Ancestry.
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Hi
irishgenealogy.ie shows 3 listings of Burial of Hannah Knox, all age 55, all on same 1833 date in St Catherine’s, Dublin South. Her age might be consistent with a lady who married 32 years earlier. See:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/search/?church-or-civil=church&firstname=Hannah&lastname=Knox&location=&yearStart=&yearEnd=&event-burial=1&_day=&month=&mothers-surname=&age-at-death=&relation-0=
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Hi
irishgenealogy.ie shows 3 listings of Burial of Hannah Knox, all age 55, all on same 1833 date in St Catherine’s, Dublin South. Her age might be consistent with a lady who married 32 years earlier. See:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/search/?church-or-civil=church&firstname=Hannah&lastname=Knox&location=&yearStart=&yearEnd=&event-burial=1&_day=&month=&mothers-surname=&age-at-death=&relation-0=
Possible death notice for the lady in the burial register
Warder and Dublin Weekly Mail
31 July 1833, page 2 col 3
DEATHS
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On the 29th ult. at Maryville, Raheny, Hannah, widow of the Rev. Arthur
Knox, formerly Vicar of St Catherine's parish.
Boo
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The Revd Arthur Knox and Hannah Wilson had a daughter called Hannah Wilson Knox. She was born in 1804. I will have a look at the death notice. Thank you.
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I have two sources. One is the Ireland, Abstracts of Wills and Marriages, 1620-1923, and the other is Ireland, Select Marriages, 1619-1898.
I had a look at the RCB list but I don't think the registers for the parish church of St Catherine's have been extracted anywhere.
The only other route is to try the newspapers, but I haven't found anything on Ancestry.
The first of those collections includes the second, so they are the same source.
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Land records can sometimes be worth a look, although difficult to read at times.
Family Search now have a handy search tool although it won't always pick up every instance due to the writing.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/full-text/collection/M9J1-ZYL
This one (if I'm reading it correctly) says Hannah inherited prior to her marriage to Rev Knox in 1801 from James Wilson a share of land in Co Meath. Perhaps he's her father.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-DC3?view=fullText&keywords=Arthur%20Knox%2CWilson&lang=en
Ah the second page clearly states she is James Wilson's daughter
This one concerns her eldest son Arthur
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-WHCP?view=fullText&keywords=Arthur%2CArthur%20Knox%2CKnox&lang=en
There maybe more
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24 Nov 1801
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24 Nov 1801
Thank you. That's really useful. We think James Wilson was her father. My niece is collecting little bits of evidence.
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Thank you. That's brilliant.
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I have just found the Revd Arthur Knox's father in a short biography on the Ulster Historical Foundation website. That is a really useful resource.
https://ulsterhistoricalfoundation.com/
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Lots of results for "James Wilson" Keyword Parsonstown Place County Meath in the land, will etc records
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Thank you.