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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: mezentia on Monday 19 May 25 13:58 BST (UK)
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The full page image for this one is:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FSHROP%2FP198-A-1-2%2F58014&parentid=GBPRS%2FSHROP%2FBUR%2F273791
It is the burial of a Maria Bill in Much Wenlock in 1675. I can make out:
S Maria filia : ?? : Bill Lo??? s{e}p{u}lt ?? eodi? Virgissi?? primo die Mar?? 1675
i.e. she was buried on the 21st March. The rest I need a bit of help with, please.
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Londinensis = of London
As written, the next word begins with: seplt_
It possibly ends with: _ist
Then eode(m), referring to the same month as the last one named in a previous entry.
Then: ...vicessi(mo): primo die Martij 1675
I don't have a clear sense of the father's name. It could end with _cus or perhaps _nis?
ADDED:
The father's name has been contracted.
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Could the father's name be Gulielmus?
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Could the father's name be Gulielmus?
In this context it should be Gulielmi (genitive).
At a stretch someone might argue that it ends _mj and means _mi but in my opinion that is highly unlikely.
I can't remember ever seeing a j standing for an i at the end of a name.
I also don't feel that the beginning of the word looks like a G, but that's only an opinion.
You might wish to search nearby pages for a similar looking name? Or, search for a William to see how it is written?
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As written, the next word begins with: seplt_
It possibly ends with: _ist
I think it is simply sep(u)lt: est, or similar (= 'was buried').
The father's name is the same shape as the father's name in the line immediately above. I think that one is Wmj (= contraction of Willelmi, = 'of William'). While I agree with horselydown86 that -mj at the end is unusual, other entries on the page show that this clerk does have a rather quirky style.
Checking for any other contracted Williams in this same hand would, as suggested, be a good idea.
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There is a baptism a few lines further down the page for a Willmus. The capital W and the final couple of letters are very similar to the beginning of Maria's father's name, from which I think that Maria is the daughter of William Bill, with the William being quite contracted on Maria's entry. The only puzzle now is the Londinensis; there is no similar name around Much Wenlock that I can see, and there is no London Street or London Road in the town.
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The only puzzle now is the Londinensis; there is no similar name around Much Wenlock that I can see, and there is no London Street or London Road in the town.
I suspect it refers to the big, smoky town in the County of Middlesex.
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Now, I wonder why I didn't think of that! ::) ;D ;D ;D
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The Londinensis may be in reference to one of the family being apprenticed to a London printer. When I've done all the BMDs I can find, I'll follow that up. In the meantime, what is at the end of this 1807 burial entry for Mary Bill at Barrow?
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deli(vered) into Court.
Indicates that at this point the register was submitted to the bishop's court for a regular inspection.
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Thanks, Bookbox.
And now, here's another. The word after Bill I suspect is an occupation, but not entirely clear. The fact that Winifred was buried in the Abbey is also interesting, possibly indicating that she was a person of some importance. There is a second entry for this burial in the records for St. Julian, oddly dated the 9th December stating that she was buried in the Abbey. Link to the clip is
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FSHROP%2FP250-A-1-3%2F68665&parentid=GBPRS%2FSHROP%2FBUR%2F857066
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A corvisor is a leather-worker.
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Thank you. I have quite a few leather workers in my tree, but this is the first time I have come across this term.