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General => Technical Help => Topic started by: tomkin on Saturday 17 May 25 17:28 BST (UK)
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Does anybody have any experience of an outside ONT box and an internal ONT box.
Both have the same name so it can be confusing as both have to be fitted.
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I thought that I'd replied ???
I've just checked the outside one* but it's slightly different than the inside onewhich is an ONT box
* The outside one is the junction box
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Yes but don’t know what ONT refers to?
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known as a “fibre box”, an ONT is installed inside or outside your building as the interface between the optical fibre infrastructure ... Non the wiser!!
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It's a small box that links the outside junction box to your hub/router via ethernet. Stationed, usually near your hub. It has pretty lights on it.
If you don't have one, you don't have full fibre.
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Tomkin - are you sure that they are both the same?
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No they are not the same but have the same name according to some on google. ??? ??? ???
As I understand it the outside one is a junction box, the fibre goes through the wall and
connects to the ONT (Optical Network Terminal.) If I understand it correctly, the inside box connects
to the router and also needs connecting to a power point.
You are quite correct Gadget :D
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So Gadget, is your junction box fitted to an outside wall and then an hole drilled through the wall
and the fibre connected to the ONT box. And does this box need a power point?
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As far as I know the fibre cable (under ground) goes to the junction box (on outside wall). A cable then runs from there to the wall adjacent to where we have the hub. The ONT is on the inside wall*. This is permanently conected to elec point. An ethernet cable runs from the ONT to hub. There are 3 pretty lights showing on the ONT
We have Full Fibre 900 with Halo 3+
Is that clear :-\
* the cable goes through the wall to the ONT
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So Gadget, is your junction box fitted to an outside wall and then an hole drilled through the wall
and the fibre connected to the ONT box. And does this box need a power point?
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I have the junction box on the outside and then a hole drilled into the wall but,no junction box inside
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heburn There is only one junction box - the inside one is the ONT.
Do read my previous reply.
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https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/4735487-is-the-openreach-external-junction-box-essential.html
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Mine works very well and is as I've described.
It's actually carrying this message at the moment
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So the outside box is so they can fiddle about with it without entering the house.
The other thing mentioned to me is that my landline will be digital and needs the broadband
on if I want to use it. If the power goes off, or the broadband goes down, the phone doesn't work.
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So the outside box is so they can fiddle about with it without entering the house.
The other thing mentioned to me is that my landline will be digital and needs the broadband
on if I want to use it. If the power goes off, or the broadband goes down, the phone doesn't work.
Yep - when we had that 3 hr power cut a while ago we had no phone and had to use the smart phone - keep it charged! I think there is some kind of back up power supply that you can get but haven't found it so far.
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On mine the underground fibre cable is green. That terminates in the junction box and a black fibre cable goes through the house wall to the ONT inside the house. The ONT converts the Fibre optical signal to an electrical signal.
Exactly as Gadget described.
Martin
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Tomkin - going back to digital telephones.
I think you have to declare that you are 'vulnerable:
https://www.bt.com/help/landline/digital-voice--will-my-service-work-in-a-power-cut-
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I have Full Fibre installed.
Outside in my garden there is a connection box for our part of the estate, from there a cable goes to other nearby residents and to our house where it is connected to an external box on our wall.
Inside there is one cable going to the the Router and from the Router there are two cables, each going to a TV box that we have in each of our two Lounges.
Ours is Virgin Media, but another company is presently installing another cable system in our vicinity, they installed the cable in our Road last week.
Our Virgin Router is dual band WiFi and that led to a problem, the Ring Video Doorbell that we had would not connect to either of the available WiFi bands so it has been changed to a device that does not require a subscription.
Hope this helps.
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That sounds strange, Biggles. Do you not have an ONT box. It wil probably be close to your hub and should
have at least 2 connector cables - one from the outside - probably with a green end - and one to the hub - an ethernet cable.
I think Tomkin is interested in BT via the dominant Openreach infrastructure.
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PS - I see you mention an external box to the wall
.....from there a cable goes to other nearby residents and to our house where it is connected to an external box on our wall
Is this the ONT box?
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My ont close to the hub
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That sounds strange, Biggles. Do you not have an ONT box. It wil probably be close to your hub and should
have at least 2 connector cables - one from the outside - probably with a green end - and one to the hub - an ethernet cable.
I think Tomkin is interested in BT via the dominant Openreach infrastructure.
An ONT box is a BT/Openreach connection.
Our Property does not have their Fibre system, we only have Virgin Cable at present.
On an estate built in the last 30/35 years there will probably be a series of concrete boxes marked AV, they will be flush with either the pavement or just inside the properties grounds yet within the service strip. It is within these boxes that the fibre optic cable is installed together with the terminal/booster systems that feed the properties. With Virgin Media is may be unlikely that a final connection to a property is made, it certainly took plenty of visits before the AV box was found in our grounds as it had been covered by the previous owners in pea gravel and we never knew it was there.
Purely out of interest I have been looking for these in the area where we live as there have been about 6 different builders on the various estate which at most dates back to the early 80’s. The later cable installation is installed pretty well to the same standards.
Alas BT has its nearest hub some two miles away hence it is pretty slow whereas Virgin is lightning at over 1Gbps but we have 500Mbps which is plenty fast enough for our needs.
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Tomkin was asking about ONT boxes.
See first post.
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Mine is the same as yours,Biggles..
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So the outside box is so they can fiddle about with it without entering the house.
The other thing mentioned to me is that my landline will be digital and needs the broadband
on if I want to use it. If the power goes off, or the broadband goes down, the phone doesn't work.
Yep - when we had that 3 hr power cut a while ago we had no phone and had to use the smart phone - keep it charged! I think there is some kind of back up power supply that you can get but haven't found it so far.
For non- BT users - Do you have a land line? If so who will supply your replacement?
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Had it fitted over a month ago, I crease in price by £15 a month, what good does it do me, not noticed the slightest difference in speed
LM
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We have to have a landline because the mobile signal is so poor. The mobile can be right next to me and not ring then you suddenly find a voice mail on there.
Have told official bodies over and over to please use the landline but guess what they don't ::)
Sorry mini rant there, as you were!