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I remember that someone on here posted a link to the above which an American company is uploading, can you point me to it please?
Cr
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The first four censuses (1801–1831) were mainly statistical: that is, mainly headcounts, with virtually no personal information. A small number of older records exist in local record offices as by-products of the notes made by enumerators in the production of those earlier censuses; these might list all persons or just the heads of households. The 1841 Census was the first to intentionally record names of all individuals in a household or institution.
The data was collected on pre-printed forms which were destroyed after the details had been extracted and published in official census reports. There was no requirement to record details of individuals but some local officials took it upon themselves to do so. Some of these unofficial lists have survived and can be found in local record offices.
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KGarrad I understand that but now I've found the site was looking for which is at: https://ebc.byu.edu/Home
and may be of some use to other researchers
Cr
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The 'definititive listing' of what existed for where was:
Census Schedules and Listings, 1801-1831: An Introduction and Guide
First published in 2004. Re-published in December 2012 by Department of History, University of Essex.
https://www1.essex.ac.uk/history/documents/research/RT2_wall_2012.pdf
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The 'definititive listing' of what existed for where was:
Census Schedules and Listings, 1801-1831: An Introduction and Guide
First published in 2004. Re-published in December 2012 by Department of History, University of Essex.
https://www1.essex.ac.uk/history/documents/research/RT2_wall_2012.pdf
While it is certainly comprehensive, the author admits that may be far from the complete story: "This publication is known to be deficient – details of known listings are incomplete and details of as yet unlocated listings are lacking." (page 13)
To be fair to the BYU Early British Census Project site to which Cockneyrebel linked, to that website does aspire to be searchable by name, and since its blurb says it is intended that "The database covers British and Irish census records 1801 - 1840" its scope will (presumably) be wider than the University of Essex project, although to date the BYU offering only covers England, and even then some counties are not represented yet.
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KGarrad I understand that but now I've found the site was looking for which is at: https://ebc.byu.edu/Home
and may be of some use to other researchers
Cr
Thanks Cr, the link has not done Snaith 1811 Census, Snaith Yorkshire, yet (listed in the Essex ac pdf document by Jon_ni ).
They seem to have the Household Head named and some statistical information, men, women, total people, number in a trade, number not in a trade.
With Nonconformism well established and Catholics, etc., they should all have been preserved!
I had been made aware that an earlier Census for Snaith, Yorkshire, survives.
East Riding Archives
DDCL
CLARK AND CO, SOLICITORS, SNAITH
Local records including Snaith town book 1777-1855 with minutes of town meetings, overseers, surveyors, constables and copy 1811 census return; ...
https://calmview.eastriding.gov.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=zDDCL&pos=1
Mark
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FindMyPast has a few 1811 census returns - very limited information though. :'(
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In the Univ. of Essex list, the entry for Sparham, Norfolk, has a transcript at
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NFK/Sparham/Census1821
The Virtual Treasury of Ireland is another project in progress, which has sample entries.
https://virtualtreasury.ie/item/VRTI-CEN
I have some notes about Waterford, Ireland:
1821 Census - City of Waterford, partial remnants only.
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/waterford/census/wat_11.htm
Transcript of microfilm copy of typewritten extracts in the Genealogical Office, Dublin.
Genealogical Office no.: MS 684
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While it is certainly comprehensive, the author admits that may be far from the complete story
Appreciate that, best list there was, good to see the data being collated from the archives, indexed online & where possible/permissable imaged on the Early British Census project site.
The 2004/2012 Univ of Essex listing never made its way to Histpop as suggested page 13, the final statistical census reports are there for 1801-31 & legislation (if you can manage to get there & browse/open).
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Does anyone remember the LDS issue of the 1881 transcribed Census on sets of CD ROM in 2000?
We were having to book weeks in advance 25 years ago, just to get an hour on it at the local Library.
"After 11 years and more than 2 1/2 million hours of volunteer labor, the largest census ever to be automated is now available on CD-ROM for home use. The automated 1881 British Census, which contains information for more than 30 million individuals, was announced May 4 by the Church Family History Department. 8 May 1999"
When I originally began it was train, motorcycle or car rides to the archives who held the microfilm reels and hope they had some form of alphabetical surname index by place, fortunately my ancestors paid for a street directory entry. But trying to find these roads on a Census reel, to discover the house was on the other side of the street, which was on the next reel, or they must have moved from the address :o
Our nearest Library (quickest to get to) for the GRO Index on fiche was 25 miles away at Birmingham!
Then you sent a cheque and Application Form and relied on a helpful Superintendent Registrar to try and find your B, M, or D, Certificate!
Probably run ragged searching all the Registers of all the Sub-Districts!
Mark