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Census Lookups General Lookups => Census and Resource Discussion => Topic started by: Damuan187 on Wednesday 14 May 25 16:20 BST (UK)
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hey there
I am looking for John James Phillips my Great grand father Born B 1877 and Wife Catherine Phillips (nee Parker)
i know he was Commit into mental hospital not sure what one but died in 1927
Also looking for John James Phillips Mother that is Elizabeth Phillips (Howells) not sure when died but
born 1853 if she on the 1921 census not sure if on the 1911 census
any help will be grateful any question please ask me
thanks Damian
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It would help us to help you if you could give us the area of GB you are wanting to search :-* :-*
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hey there
Elizabeth Phillips (Howells) was born in Llangynwyd, Maseteg Glamorgan i have hear in 1871 in Llangynwyd in maesteg nothing after that.
John James Phillips born in Ystradyfodwg glamorgan wales
in Pontrhydyfen in 1911 i think
damian
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Thank you for that!
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Is this him?
1911 Census
John James Phillips 32 Coal Hewer born Tonypandy Glamorgan
Catherine 31 married 8 years 6 children 4 living 2 deceased
Gladis May 7
Annie Maud 4
Ivor Gwyn 3
David Anewin 1 month
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GRO Index registered Neath
Mother's maiden name Parker
Gwladys May 1904
Annie Maud 1905
Ivor Gwyn 1907
Elizabeth 1908 died 1908 age 0
David Randal 1909 died 1910 age 0 (David Randall Phillips)
David Anewin 1911
There is another daughter Catherine 1913 - died 1913, Jennet 1914, Gwenllian 1915, Catherine 1918, Danial John 1919.
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John James Phillips married Kate Parker 1903 registered Neath.
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1921? Cerig Llwydion, Pontrhydyfen, Michaelston Higher, Glamorganshire
Catherine Phillip Head, wife 42 Port Talbot, Glamorganshire, Wales House Keeping Husband John James Morgan Phillips at Bridgend Hosp
Annie M Phillip Daughter 16 Port Talbot, Glamorganshire, Wales At Home -
Ivor G Phillip Son 14 Port Talbot, Glamorganshire, Wales At School -
David A Phillip Son 11
Jennet Phillip Daughter 6
Gwennie Phillip Daughter 5
Catherine Phillip Daughter 3
Daniel John Phillip Son 1
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hey BumbleB i think that him in 1911 census as know so of the names on the census you sent me
jennet (jenny ) 1914 is my grandmother did not know about the one past away in 1913 a daughter
hey Kay was that 1921 census you found do have the detail so i can look online when online in the library next
do know what happen to Elizabeth Phillips (Howells) was born in 1850s Llangynwyd, Maseteg
Glamorgan
thanks both damian
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Sorry - It was the 1921 census and relooking at the image I realised the husband was at the Bridgend Mental Hosp. They all spoke Welsh. I think some libraries have access to census records :-\
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John James Phillips birth registered 1877 June quarter Pontypridd mother's maiden name Howells.
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hey kay so was John J Phillips on the hospital census in 1921
amondg yes that her maiden names howells trying to find in 1921 census
damian
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James Phillips married Elizabeth Howells 1874 registered Ponypridd
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Be careful guys re posting 1921 census details, sailing close to the wind with this post, don't want mods telling us we have broken copyright rules.
SS
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Oops - sorry - I thought it was OK now it was also available on Anc. Can't see the husband in Bridgend
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hey kay i will have look in 1921 census in Bridgend to see if i can find him when at the library next
do know the detail on that page 1921 so can find john phillips
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Looks like Elizabeth Phillips nee Howells married again to ? Davies
1901 Census Michaelstone Upper, Glamorgan
*Elizabeth Davies 47 wid.
*John James Phillips 24 born Pontypridd
Sarah Davies 6 daughter
ADDED (reg. 1904 Neath,mother's maiden name Howells)
Morgan Davies 18 step son
Jennet Ann Davies 15 step daughter
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1891
John James Phillips 14 is living with his Aunt and Uncle Margaret and David Howells
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If I have the correct person John James Phillips age 4 is with his Aunt and Uncle Margaret and David Howells in 1881census.
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Sarah G Davies married William E Rees reg. Neath 1916
If this is Elizabeth Davies daughter then they are still in Michaelston in 1921 and Elizabeth Davies is with them age 68 as mother in law.
Transcribes on ancestry as Rus, sent in a correction to Rees
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Possible marriage of Elizabeth and death of husband.
Marriages Jun 1894
Davies Richard Neath 11a 1086
Phillips Elizabeth Neath 11a 1086
Deaths Jun 1896
Davies Richard 34 Neath 11a 417
!891 wales census ref
Piece 4459
Folio 7
Page number 7
SS
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so re married then before 1921 to william E Rees
Elizabeth or i am wrong then ??
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No she is Elizabeth Davies in 1921. age 68
Her daughter Sarah Davies married William Rees.
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hey amondg
i will have try looking for them when down the Library when there next
do know when she died Elizabeth
and look for john j phillips as well
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I think verification is needed before going any further.
First the marriage of John James Phillips to Kate(Catherine) Parker 1903 reg. Pontypridd will give us the names of their fathers.
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Then if his father is James Phillips.
The marriage of James Phillips to Elizabeth Howell 1874 reg. Pontypridd will give us the names of their fathers.
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James Phillips and Elizabeth nee Howells had the following children, all reg. Pontypridd with mother's maiden name Howell/Howells.
David 1875 died 1875
Martha 1876
John James 1877
David John 1879 twin
Sarah Anne 1879 twin
Mary 1881
Elizabeth 1882
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There is a death of a James Phillips 1882 age is 28 might be a bit young.
So the age of James when he married Elizabeth 1874 would be useful if it's on the marriage certificate.