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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: hexhamlad on Tuesday 13 May 25 20:39 BST (UK)
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Looking for the origins of Sarah Coates, born circa 1870, married Thomas McBride at St. Patricks, Portaferry in 1888, buried Ballyphilip Parish Church 1935
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You forgot to say what her father's name is on the marriage cert
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10773/5929031.pdf
Henry, a labourer, deceased.
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It this is the correct Sarah McBride then she was born earlier than you indicated which may explain why I couldn't find a birth registration.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ards_Upper/High_Street/1232114/ (Sarah age 36 so born c1864)
Birth of daughter Rose confirms parents-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1898/02077/1792741.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Portaferry/High_Street/241453/ (Sarah age 50 so born c1861, 13 children/8 living)
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Birth of daughter Rose confirms parents
Rosina McBride sadly died of chronic Bright's Disease in 1903 aged 5 yrs.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05649/4590104.pdf
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You might have all these detail's
Miss Sarah COATES . Ballyphilip married Thomas McBride 23 Aug 1888 at Portaferry Catholic Church; mother of Thomas b. 1889 (d. 1971), Sam & Lizzie (Twins ) b. 1890 (d 1891), Sarah b. 1892 (d. 1893), James b 1893 (d. 1938),Archibald b. 1895 (d. 1913), George b. 1897 (d. 1963), Rosina b. 1898 (d. 1903), Sam b. 1900 (d. 1900), Sadie b. 1902 (d. 1925), Joseph b. 1904 (d. 1966), Hugh b. 1906 (d. 1964) & Eveline b. 1907 (d. 1983)
From : https://rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/C/CoaCol.htm
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Thank you, I do have that information, It is Sarah's history prior to marrying Thomas McBride that I am seeking.
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Thank you, I do have that information, It is Sarah's history prior to marrying Thomas McBride that I am seeking.
It this is the correct Sarah McBride then she was born earlier than you indicated which may explain why I couldn't find a birth registration.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ards_Upper/High_Street/1232114/ (Sarah age 36 so born c1864)
Birth of daughter Rose confirms parents-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1898/02077/1792741.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Portaferry/High_Street/241453/ (Sarah age 50 so born c1861, 13 children/8 living)
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Just to be aware (from a subscription website) that what looks like the same Sarah Coates was the subject in an adult baptism in Ballyphilip RC Parish on the day of her marriage. I say "what looks like the same", for the address given was Portaferry, the date was 22 August 1888 and the sponsor was named as Sarah McBride (the witness to the marriage?). So maybe a conversion?
Added: that would explain the reversion to Church of Ireland as a widow in the 1911 Ireland census.
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I believe Sarah was originally Church of Ireland and turned when she married Thomas McBride, she reverted to Church of Ireland upon the death of Thomas and is buried in Ballyphilip C of I churchyard. I have no record of her birth or christening but believe her Father was Henry Coates and that she had a Sister Jane Ellen.
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I have no record of her birth or christening but believe her Father was Henry Coates and that she had a Sister Jane Ellen.
To find a record of her birth you would need to consult the Ballyphilip microfilms on PRONI. You may find Henry's burial (the father clearly stated on her 1887 marriage) on RootsIreland https://rootsireland.ie/down/online-sources.php
Not sure the below is the same Henry as your Henry is described as a labourer on the 1888 marriage
Henry Coates was the immediate lessor of many of the houses in Portaferry on Griffiths Valuation printed 26 Sep 1863 (in several different Townlands).Henry Coates appears in multiple newspaper articles on British Newspaper Archve/Findmypast. He owned a Hotel & shop was a spirit merchant in Portaferry. He had been carrying on the business for >25 years when let the Hotel/shop 1862.
Belfast News-Letter 1 March 1875
COATES - Feb 25, at the residence of his son-in-law John Cole, Diamond, Clones, Henry Coates, Clontivern House, Co. Fermanagh, formerly of Portaferry, in the 83rd year of his age. [that News-Letter article will be viewable on standard Ancestry] His wife Anne died at John Cole's 8 June 1872 and was also of Clontivern House, formerly of Portaferry.
Belfast News-Letter 12 November 1873 has an advert from Henry of Clontivern selling his 23 houses in Portaferry currently leased out.
Feb 17, 1857 by Rev. John Orr, Portaferry, Mr John Cole of Irish-hill Dundonald to Jane Coates, eldest daughter of Henry Coates, Portaferry. Belfast Mercury 20 Feb 1857 & Belfast Weekly News 21 Feb 1857.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=8f6abc883a-1986866 John Cole's marriage actually at Glastry Presbyterian, Innishargy Pa.