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Title: Henry Flower
Post by: Gary Allison on Tuesday 13 May 25 12:49 BST (UK)
Hi.

My name is Gary in Australia & I am looking for any info re Henry Flower the father of Hannah Flower
b. c. 1733 at Horsley & any info would be fantastic.

Regards,

Gary.
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: gc1 on Tuesday 13 May 25 13:35 BST (UK)
Hi Gary

When you say "born c. 1733 at Horsley" is that Henry or Hannah ???

gc1
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: gc1 on Tuesday 13 May 25 13:38 BST (UK)
Following on from above and if it's Hannah born 1733 could this be her aged 21  ???

Name    Hannah Flower
Gender    Female
Event Type    Marriage
Marriage Date    27 Dec 1754
Marriage Place    Horsley, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears    Horsley
Spouse    
John Dyer

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/5156/records/5487488?_phcmd=u(%27https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/?name=Hannah_Flower&event=_horsley-gloucestershire-england-united+kingdom_83848&birth=_horsley-gloucestershire-england-united+kingdom_83848&father=henry_flower&searchMode=advanced&successSource=Search&queryId=84d8808c-68b7-4c87-b1fa-1e20f58b0e88%27,%27successSource%27)
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: gc1 on Tuesday 13 May 25 13:49 BST (UK)
Wild card for Hannah and John Dyer on Geneanet Community Trees Index ??? ???

https://gw.geneanet.org/trevorhin2019?n=dyer&oc=&p=john
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: Gary Allison on Tuesday 13 May 25 15:22 BST (UK)
Yes, it is her.

Thanks,

Gary.
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 14 May 25 07:09 BST (UK)
Just wondering how you know her father's name was Henry? Do you have her baptism? Or is the year of birth just a guess due to the marriage in 1754, or is there an age at burial?  :)

I can see a family of John and Mary FLOWER baptising children at Horsely around 1734. There is an Anne FLOWER baptised 19 July 1731 at St John the Baptist, Gloucester with parents John and Mary - of course, not necessarily the same couple.
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 14 May 25 07:48 BST (UK)
Quote from: gc1 on Tuesday 13 May 25 13:38 BST (UK)
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/5156/records/5487488?_phcmd=u(%27https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/?name=Hannah_Flower&event=_horsley-gloucestershire-england-united+kingdom_83848&birth=_horsley-gloucestershire-england-united+kingdom_83848&father=henry_flower&searchMode=advanced&successSource=Search&queryId=84d8808c-68b7-4c87-b1fa-1e20f58b0e88%27,%27successSource%27)

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Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 14 May 25 07:50 BST (UK)
Quote from: gc1 on Tuesday 13 May 25 13:38 BST (UK)
Following on from above and if it's Hannah born 1733 could this be her aged 21  ???

Name    Hannah Flower
Gender    Female
Event Type    Marriage
Marriage Date    27 Dec 1754
Marriage Place    Horsley, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears    Horsley
Spouse    
John Dyer

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/5156/records/5487488?_phcmd=u(%27https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/?name=Hannah_Flower&event=_horsley-gloucestershire-england-united+kingdom_83848&birth=_horsley-gloucestershire-england-united+kingdom_83848&father=henry_flower&searchMode=advanced&successSource=Search&queryId=84d8808c-68b7-4c87-b1fa-1e20f58b0e88%27,%27successSource%27)

Isn't Hannah a widow on this record?
Therefore Flower not her birth surname
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 14 May 25 07:57 BST (UK)
There are two baptisms in Horsley to two children to a William and Hannah Flower in Horsley in 1747 and 1749. Both children called William. First one buried 5 days after baptism.
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 14 May 25 07:59 BST (UK)
William Flower married Hannah Prout at Horsley on 28 Mar 1772. Could be her first marriege

added
Meant William jnr's marriage

Can't find William snr's marriage or death
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 14 May 25 08:30 BST (UK)
John Dyer and Hannah seem to have had 3 children baptised in Horsley, Betty 1755 and Silas and Sarah both baptised on 1 Jan 1769. Since there's quite a gap I suspected late baptism rather than twins. There is a marriage for a Silas Dyer in Horsley in 1781, and a death for a Silas in 1838 age 78 in Stroud reg district. This would indicate a birth abt 1760 rather than 1769.

Sarah isn't so easy as there is another Sarah in Horsley at the same sort of time bapt to William and Betty Dyer
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 14 May 25 08:33 BST (UK)
There is a marriage in Horsley of a Hannah Ashman to a William Flour (sic) on 9 June 1745

and a William Flower bapt 1724
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 14 May 25 08:38 BST (UK)
No Hannah Ashman bapt in Horsley around 1825 but there is one transcribed as Astman. Hannah Astman bapt 01 May 1725 d/0 Samuel and Elizabeth.

Added
Hannah "Astman" has a sister Sarah and a brother SILAS
Title: Re: Henry Flower
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 14 May 25 08:48 BST (UK)
Quote from: maddys52 on Wednesday 14 May 25 07:09 BST (UK)

I can see a family of John and Mary FLOWER baptising children at Horsely around 1734. There is an Anne FLOWER baptised 19 July 1731 at St John the Baptist, Gloucester with parents John and Mary - of course, not necessarily the same couple.

William Flower (Hannah's first husband) was the son of a John and Mary, bapt Horsley 14 Jun 1724.

No sign of this Henry Flower anywhere.