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Title: John James Williams
Post by: Daiwalker on Sunday 11 May 25 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi all, I'm trying to find out how I can find a marriage and death record for John James Williams in Newry Northern Ireland. John James Williams was born 1907 in Porth, Rhondda, South Wales. He married Mary Elizabeth Parker in 1929 in Pontypridd and had one daughter. His wife died in 1942 while he was serving in WWII. After the war in 1946 he was living in 19, Canal Street, Newry, N. Ireland where he married, he died in 1980. any help would be most welcome, Thank You
Title: Re: John James Williams
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 11 May 25 19:07 BST (UK)
He was living at 19 Canal Street, Newry in April 1967 (newspaper report of automobile accident).

The death is too recent to view online but can be ordered through GRONI, Belfast (unless you can get to GRONI in person).
The marriage might also be too recent to view online (deaths more than 50 years and marriages more than 75 years are indexed in GRONI's online database).
Title: Re: John James Williams
Post by: scotmum on Sunday 11 May 25 22:56 BST (UK)
A November 1944 edition of The Newry Reporter carried a story of a Prisoner of War in Germany. Mrs Minnie Williams, of 19 Canal Street, Newry had been notified that her husband,  J. Jack Williams, a bandsman in the Welch Regiment, was a prisoner. Apparently, before the war he was in the Territorial Army and employed at Albin Colliery, Ponypridd. It mentioned that he had 3 brothers serving in the Forces and that his father had served in the Great War.

So, marriage on index likely:

M/1942/U1/1968/6/72   John   Williams           McCullough   18th July 1942   Newry & Mourne
M/1942/U1/1968/6/72   Mary   McCullough   Williams            18th July 1942   Newry & Mourne
Title: Re: John James Williams
Post by: scotmum on Sunday 11 May 25 23:14 BST (UK)
A Herbert McCullough with a Newry address, died in Belfast in 1959. One of his death notices was from sister and brother-in-law Minnie and Jack Williams, Canal Street, Newry.
Title: Re: John James Williams
Post by: scotmum on Sunday 11 May 25 23:27 BST (UK)
19th May 1977 edition of Newry Reporter carries short story on death of, it says, a Robert John (Jack) Williams, formerly of the Welsh Regiment who lived at 49 Canal Street (49 was also the address in the McCullough death notice). A sorrowing widow and daughter are mentioned, Mary and ______ (could be alive so can't name here, her husband also named). Funeral at Armagh Road Cemetry. He seems to have been active in both the Orange Lodge and Royal Black Institution.
Title: Re: John James Williams
Post by: Daiwalker on Monday 19 May 25 21:22 BST (UK)
Thank you for the replies all, very interesting. Jon James Williams was a miner in the Albion Colliery, Cilfynydd, Pontypridd and originally signed up in 1934(territorial army?). He was a drummer in the Welsh Regiment, he was captured in Evracy, Normandy on the 21st July, 1944 and was a POW in Stalag VIII - B, Cieszyn, Poland. he had 6 brothers presumably then only 3 were old enough to fight in the war. So are we saying he was probably married to a Mary(Minnie) McCulloch then, do I have that right?