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Title: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: howe02 on Wednesday 07 May 25 05:39 BST (UK)
I am back to some research. Looking for birth (and parents), death and burial record of Elizabeth Fleeson (nee Anderson) wife of Plunket Fleeson, Castletown Delvin, Westmeath. Elizabeth was born abt 1803. Married Plunket 28 May 1824 Delvin. Children of marriage Maria bp 1824, James bp 1827/8, Emily between 1827-1833, Thomas 1831/3, Plunket? 1836 - approximate birth/baptism dates.
It has been suggested that Elizabeth may have died after childbirth 1836 but I have not found a record. Plunket remarried Eliza Price 1840.
Any suggestions regarding Elizabeth Fleeson (Anderson) greatly appreciated, regards .... Alison
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: howe02 on Wednesday 07 May 25 09:20 BST (UK)
I wondered if the 28 May 1840 second marriage of Plunket lists him as a widow. I don't have a copy of the certificate but have a FHL film number 101011. The name says Fleison (should be Fleeson) location - Killucan, Westmeath to Elizabeth Price. Does anyone know how I can view a copy of the film reference listed, thanks ...... Alison
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: gc1 on Wednesday 07 May 25 12:57 BST (UK)
Not what you asked but for reference daughter Emily Fleeson marriage

Name   James Elliott
Sex   Male
Age   26
Birth Year (Estimated)   1835
Father's Name   Thomas Elliott
Father's Sex   Male
Spouse's Name   Emily Fleeson
Spouse's Sex   Female
Spouse's Age   24
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)   1837
Spouse's Father's Name   Plunket Fleeson
Spouse's Father's Sex   Male
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   29 Jan 1861
Event Place   Killucan, Mullingar, Ireland

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-PWC5?lang=en

Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: gc1 on Wednesday 07 May 25 12:58 BST (UK)
and son James

Name   James Fleeson
Sex   Male
Father's Name   Plunket Fleeson
Father's Sex   Male
Spouse's Name   Catherine Robinson
Spouse's Sex   Female
Spouse's Father's Name   Hugh Robinson
Spouse's Father's Sex   Male
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   11 Feb 1870
Event Place   Rathconnell, Mullingar, County Westmeath, Ireland

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGP6-QVVC?lang=en
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: gc1 on Wednesday 07 May 25 13:09 BST (UK)
Possibly Elizabeth death  ???

Name    Eliza Fleeson
Estimated Birth Year    abt 1803
Date of Registration    1883 Apr-May-Jun
Death Age    80
Registration District    Delvin
Volume    3
FHL Film Number    101592

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2534/records/2598421
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 07 May 25 15:05 BST (UK)
Much better to post a link to the actual registration which shows full details-
Eliza Fleeson, died 15 May 1883 at Mooretown, age 80, painter's widow, etc.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06361/4825213.pdf

Death of husband Plunket Fleeson in 1874-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1874/020659/7249103.pdf
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: athacliath62 on Wednesday 07 May 25 15:22 BST (UK)
I wondered if the 28 May 1840 second marriage of Plunket lists him as a widow. I don't have a copy of the certificate but have a FHL film number 101011. The name says Fleison (should be Fleeson) location - Killucan, Westmeath to Elizabeth Price. Does anyone know how I can view a copy of the film reference listed, thanks ...... Alison

The record on FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGJX-24G?lang=en) links to a microfilm imageset which includes some baptism, burials and marriages for Killucan Parish (CofI), you have to browse through it.

There's a transcript of this marriage on FamilySearch, see if this link works (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-S3C1-1?i=491&lang=en), you need to have a sign-in (free).

This record gives residences for the bride & groom, Delvin & Killucan, names of two witnesses - William Fleison & Robert Price and notes that the marriage was 'by license' and carried out by a Cecil Crampton rector, other than the date there are no other details.
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 07 May 25 17:55 BST (UK)
This article might help (I can only see this snippet on FindMyPast).

Morning Herald (London), 10 May 1836: BLAKE V. LYNCH. Catholics. In contradiction of Plunket Fleeson's evidence, with regard to his wife's living and dying a Catholic, the affidavit of the Reverend Mr. Barton was introduced by Mr. John Lynch, wherein it was deposed that, when Plunket Fleeson's wife was on her death-bed, her husband ...
Added (from same article) ...  daughter, Mary Anne Fleeson, as a Catholic ; that accordingly she did bring her up as a Catholic; that they both used to attend occasionally Catholic places of worship. Dr. Kiernan (now the Catholic Bishop of Clogher), who married Miss Fleeson to Lieut. Lynch ...

Another article-
True Sun (London), 10 May 1836: ... marriage, which was performed in 1810 at Enniskillen, in Ireland, by a Popish Priest. His mother was the daughter of Mr. Fleeson, a cornet and quartermaster in the 6th Dragoons. This gentleman was a Methodist, but his wife was a Roman Catholic, and the ...
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 07 May 25 18:10 BST (UK)
I was able to view and copy both articles (the first one very long) and they involve a court case over inheritance. If you are interested I can send them by email (just send me a PM with your email address).
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 07 May 25 20:40 BST (UK)
Have just discovered 5 pages of an earlier thread-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=564474.0
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: howe02 on Wednesday 07 May 25 22:38 BST (UK)
Thankyou to everyone.   I do have a lot of information on this family, however my request is specifically related to Plunket's first wife Elizabeth Anderson - birth, parents, death, burial.
The information some people have posted relates to his second wife (Eliza Price). The approximate dates of both women have a birth about 1803 which is why the confusion appears.
Hence why I am trying to find a copy of the second marriage to see is he lists himself as a widow.
Thanks again for all the time and effort people are making to assist me, regards
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: shanreagh on Wednesday 07 May 25 22:52 BST (UK)
...
Hence why I am trying to find a copy of the second marriage to see is he lists himself as a widow.
Thanks again for all the time and effort people are making to assist me, regards

He would list himself as a widower rather than widow, hopefully.   ;)  Widow is for a female.
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 08 May 25 08:55 BST (UK)
The information about both wives is relevent.

Quote
Hence why I am trying to find a copy of the second marriage to see is he lists himself as a widow.
Yes, it should be widower rather than widow but this has already been covered-
[quote author=athacliath62 link=topic=891277.msg7652889#msg7652889 date=1746627766
This record gives residences for the bride & groom, Delvin & Killucan, names of two witnesses - William Fleison & Robert Price and notes that the marriage was 'by license' and carried out by a Cecil Crampton rector, other than the date there are no other details.[/quote]

Will send two newspaper articles shortly and think you will find them both interesting although may take a few readings to figure out what was going on.
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: rathmore on Thursday 08 May 25 12:35 BST (UK)
marriage to Elizabeth Anderson on find my past 1824

http://www.findmypast.co.uk

Plunket with spelt Plunkett
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: rathmore on Thursday 08 May 25 12:41 BST (UK)
find my past

Elizabeth Price married Plunket Fleison in 1840 at Killucan, Westmeath

different spelling of Fleeson
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: howe02 on Friday 09 May 25 01:26 BST (UK)
Thankyou for the information, however I am only looking for the birth / baptism, death, and burial of the first wife to Plunket Fleeson - Elizabeth Anderson - born about 1803 and married 1824.
The 1883 death of Eliza / Elizabeth Fleeson is the second wife - Eliza Price.
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: LH on Friday 09 May 25 07:51 BST (UK)
Hi

See link below for burial in Golden Bridge Roman Catholic Cemetery, Dublin.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1goldenbridge/golden-bridge2.htm

Regards
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: howe02 on Friday 09 May 25 08:45 BST (UK)
How interesting, thankyou so much for the burial record in Dublin - hope to make this connection to my Plunket Fleeson, regards ....... Alison
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 09 May 25 09:30 BST (UK)
Hi
See link below for burial in Golden Bridge Roman Catholic Cemetery, Dublin.
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1goldenbridge/golden-bridge2.htm
Regards

This might tie in to both the gravestone and that court case-
London Courier and Evening Gazette, 21 June 1837: ... St. George's, Hanover-square, London, Peter Gale, Esq., of Ashfield Hall, in the Queen's County, to Anna Maria Harriet, only daughter of the late Captain Fleeson, of the 6th Dragoon Guards, and relict of P. H. Lynch, Esq., of Rock-lands, in the county of Mayo.
Title: Re: Fleeson - death and burial record
Post by: howe02 on Friday 09 May 25 10:31 BST (UK)
Thankyou for the information, definitely seems to fit the other article, regards