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I'm trying to find the marriage for Joseph Mercer b. 1754 and Elizabeth. They have about 9 children with the first being baptized in 1778.
I have Thomas Mercer, who I believe is the son of Joseph and Elizabeth because of the fact Joseph and Elizabeth had a son named Barnabas and later Thomas names his son Barnabas. All these events occurred in Treeton.
This makes me wonder if Thomas was born out of marriage and baptized under his alleged mother's maiden name.
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In FindMyPast Nottinghamshire Marriages there is a transcript of a BT of a marriage by licence at Colwick 27 Jan 1779, Joseph Mercer to Elizabeth Horsley, both of Treeton in West Riding. This is Free to View at present.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBPRS%2FNOTTINGHAMSHIRE%2FMAR%2F000019369%2F1&tab=this
ADDED: Colwick is near Nottingham, so it looks as if they went to the far end of the next county for the marriage.
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Maybe Elizabeth was from Colwick originally
There is a baptism of an Eliz Horsley in Colwick on 28 Sep 1755 d/o James, no mother recorded
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Hi
A bit of a way away but
Thomas Horsley s of Elizabeth 25.3.1777 at Norton East Yorkshire.
ps the marriage is also transcribed as 1778
Ciderdrinker
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Thank you! Guess my hunch was right.
Makes me wonder how they met. As far as I know Joseph, his father, and almost every single one of his sons were Masons. Maybe they met in Norton but she wanted to be married in her hometown.
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You may be interested there is a blog named The Language of Stone written by a geologist and building stone expert who lives in Treeton, so he has explored that local area extensively. See
https://thelanguageofstone.blogspot.com/2021/10/an-investigation-of-treeton-rock_5.html
There are also a number of items in Nov 2020, Sep 2021 no 3, and others.
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Brides often married in their hometown :)
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Maybe Elizabeth was from Colwick originally
There is a baptism of an Eliz Horsley in Colwick on 28 Sep 1755 d/o James, no mother recorded
Just found another transcript of same event. It names mother as Ann.
There is a marriage in Nottingham for a James to an Ann Birch in 1753, which is a possibility
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ps the marriage is also transcribed as 1778
Ciderdrinker
The marriage is in January, maybe the transcriber missed the year change if it happened part way down a page in the register. I have seen 1778 on three transcriptions on FindMyPast. Two acknowledge familySearch, so actually from same source. The third acknowledges the Nottinghamshire FHS. But who knows, maybe FS actually used their transcription. The one that says 1779 references the BT, so would be copied from the PR not too long after the event. Sight of the licence image would settle it. If the marriage was really Jan 1778, then the Thomas baptised in Norton in March 1778 would be to a different Elizabeth H
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That is why I was careful to say it is a transcript of a BT - two steps from the original. You can see one instance of "Treeton, West Riding" has been mistranscribed. Needs further checking.
I have found Notts FHS helpful in rechecking a query. They sent me a copy of an original marriage.
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Found this written lic. for Joseph Mercer Jan 26 1778, p. Treeton, Mason...just need an account to sign in IGI..
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01trt/
to Elizabeth Oslow of Colwick at Colwick
Barnabas Mercer of Nottingham, Mason, signs bond
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The year in the licence volume is 1777. See the previous image.
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All I can see on the page before is 1778 (no. 1256) and then the lists of marriages start that has Joseph Mercer on the next page.
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Found this written lic. for Joseph Mercer Jan 26 1778, p. Treeton, Mason...just need an account to sign in IGI..
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01trt/
to Elizabeth Oslow of Colwick at Colwick
Barnabas Mercer of Nottingham, Mason, signs bond
This is confusing.
I can't find anything about Elizabeth Oslow. As far as I can tell there isn't even an Oslow family in Nottingham.
Edit: If it helps, Joseph's wife Elizabeth was buried in 1805 at age 50.
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Willsy - you're correct, but yesterday the link took me to image 1248, not 1257. Just checked my browsing history - strange! Sorry for the confusion.
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I suspect Oslow is a mistranscription of Horsely / Horsley / 'Orsley. This document is just a transcribed index and we don't know how many generations away from the original records it is.
See image 1164 for source of document
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If I am suspicious about a spelling of a surname, I check how many of tha spelling appear on free BMD. Precisely one Oslow (marriage in 1943) and if that one was pursued, I suspect it would be a mis-transcription.
Reminds me of several years ago, when I attended a U3A family history group. One of the members spent 4 months looking for an ancestor with an unpronounceable surname (not enough vowels). She had got this from a transcription on Ancestry, she continued this fruitless search even after I found the actual image of the register on FindMyPast, where it was clear it was a bad transcription of the marriage record and her ancestor's baptism could be found in a few minutes with the correct spelling.
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I suspect Oslow is a mistranscription of Horsely / Horsley / 'Orsley. This document is just a transcribed index and we don't know how many generations away from the original records it is.
See image 1164 for source of document
Then that's a relief! I just wonder how someone could mistake Horsley for Oslow.
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Found this written lic. for Joseph Mercer Jan 26 1778, p. Treeton, Mason...just need an account to sign in IGI..
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01trt/
to Elizabeth Oslow of Colwick at Colwick
Barnabas Mercer of Nottingham, Mason, signs bond
A Barnabas Mercer married at St Nicholas, Nottingham on 09 Jun 1777 to Pat Johnson. Might be the one who signed the bond
added, possibly same chap buried 01 Aug 1793 at St Mary, Nottingham