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				Hi there,
 I'm currently working on the family tree of my late mum's half brother.  All are deceased.
 
 My Grandma, Annie Elizabeth Prince was born in Leicester in 1891. By April 1914 she had married Albert Godson/Beckett, was heavily pregnant and was living in Stafford. Their son was born in May 1914 and a month later Albert died of tb..
 
 His parents persuaded Annie to leave the baby with them and return to Leicester,  where she eventually met and married my Grandfather.
 
 The difficulty is that Albert's mother was, I believe, bigamously married to his father.
 
 Annie used the surnames Prince, Godson and Beckett as her maiden name on the birth certificates of the children she and my grandfather had. I think Albert also alternated between Godson and Beckett.
 
 I can find Albert on the 1901 census, living with the Cartwright family but can't find him in 1891 or 1911.
 
 I  have his death certificate and am wsiting on the marriage certificate.  I believe Albert was born about 1886 in Stafford or Staffordshire but can't trace his birth.
 
 
 I know that by the late 1940s, the son, who had been named Arthur Andrew Reginald Godson (known as Reg) was living with his mother and the children from her second marriage in Leicester and I know that he was part of a rather large skeleton in my grandma's cupboard as my mum spoke a bit about him. My dad met him but was not aware of his actual relationship to my mum and her siblings.
 
 I can't find him on the 1921 census although he's listed on the 1939 register. He never married as far as I can tell.
 
 Please can anyone find Albert or Arthur/Reg  in the census or baptisms or births? Nothing comes up on GRO, free BMD, FindMyPast nor FS and I currently don't have Ancestry.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 June.
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				Albert and Alfred (surely his brother?) are still with the Cartwrights in 1911 - transcribed on Ancestry as Gadson
 
 My eye was taken by Lily Becket aged 6 b Leicester who's also a boarder in 1901
 
 BECKETT, LILIAN
 mmn        GODSON
 LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 197
 
 They must all be related - Mary Cartwright's maiden name is Hartill. This is her previous marriage
 
 Mary Hartell,     22
 Alferd Godson 29
 Marriage Place    Saint Mary, Stafford, Stafford, England
 Marriage Date    24 Jun 1866
 
 She married James Cartwright in 1871
 
 
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				The fact Albert changes between Godson and Beckett suggests to me his mother had both these surnames at various points  - maybe he was born before she married Mr Beckett and Lily is his half sister?
 
 I'm trying to untangle them all, but the Godsons all seem to call their sons Alfred, Albert and Arthur!
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				Just to note      
 
 BECKETT, ELIZABETH
 mmn GODSON
 Q3 1890
 BILLESDON  Volume 07A  Page 25
 
 Looks like she's with Granny and family in Evington, Leicestershire,  in 1891. The Becketts have Staffordshire connections
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				Death of husband of Mary.  Marriage to James Cartwright 1871 after census
 
 Deaths Sep Q 1867
 GODSON  Alfred   age 30 Stafford  6b 3
 
 1871 - St Mary, Stafford - James Cartwright & family living a few doors above Hartell.
 
 All born Staffordshire
 Cathrine Hartell 55 Head
 Mary Hartell 26 Daughter
 Hannah Hartell 14 Daughter
 Emma Crutchley 19 Boarder
 Sarah Godson   5   Granddaughter
 Alfred Godson 3 Grandson
 Thomas Kent 1 Nurse Child (Nurse)
 Lizzy Gerland 12 Granddaughter
 
 Birth
 GODSON, SARAH  HARTELL  mmn   HARTELL
 GRO Reference: 1866  S Quarter in STAFFORD  Volume 06B  Page 3
 
 1881, Stafford - down as Sarah Cartwright with James &  mother Mary
 
 Marriages Jun Q 1887
 Beckett    James        Leicester    7a   346
 Godsan    Sarah Hartell Leicester    7a   346
 
 1891 in Evington, Leicestershire with husband & family.
 
 1901
 Leicestershire
 James Beckett 35 Head
 Sarah Beckett   35   Wife
 Elizabeth Beckett 10 Daughter
 Alfred Godson 6 Nephew.  - Also enumerated at house of Grandmother Mary Cartwright, (was Godson, nee Hartell). - Son of Alfred Godson born 1867.
 
 Likely death for Sarah 1905 in Leicester
 
 1911 down as Jamas Berkitt, widower mistranscribed on A*
 
 1921 - Reggie Beckett age 7 yrs 1 mth, with grandfather James Beckett age 55 living Leicester
 
 Still looking for a birth registration for Albert bc 1886. Born before (with James being grandfather) parents marriage so maybe under Beckett or Godson.
 
 Cas
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				Not finding him under either surname, but a good possible as likely mother registered Sarah Hartell Godson
 
 HARTELL, ALBERT       -  no maiden listed
 GRO Reference: 1886  J Quarter in STAFFORD  Volume 06B  Page 18
 
 There is this possible bapt..same date as wedding of Mary & Alfred snr, so born shortly before marriage registered after?
 
 Sarah Hartell
 Christening Date   24 Jun 1866
 Christening Place   Stafford, Staffordshire, England
 Mother   Mary Hartell
 
 Bapt of her brother
 Alfred Godson
 Baptism Date   25 Sep 1867
 Baptism Place   St. Mary, Stafford, Stafford, England
 Father   Alfred Godson
 Mother   Mary
 FHL Film Number   1040878
 Reference ID   - 2:3KW7N2V
 
 His Marriage
 Alfred Godson
 Marriage Age   24
 Residence Place   11 Clarke Street
 Marriage Date   4 Jun 1892
 Marriage Place   Stafford, St Mary, Staffordshire, England
 Father   Alfred Godson
 Spouse   Mary Ann Reeves
 Religion   Anglican
 Page number   91
 
 Cas
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				Hi everyone. 
 Thank you for the replies. Some interesting information there. I'm very grateful to you all.
 
 This is the second family with possible bigamy  in my grandma'sfamily line. But this one has so many changes of names that I'm just going round in circles.
 
 My Grandma,  was scared that she'd get into some sort of trouble over past happenings and she was a lady who was afraid of no one, even cloutiig Mick McManus over the head with her handbag on one occasion but she refused to go into detail about her forst marriage and the son she bore. The birth certificates for all her children show that she was probably as confused as I am over her correct married name.
 
 
 
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				Albert death?
 
 Deaths Jun Q 1914
 Godson    Albert   age 28    Stafford    6b   23
 
 After this date she was free to marry..I am not sure where bigamy comes in.
 
 
 
 
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				Sorry, I didn't explain things very well.  My Grandma wasn't a bigamist. Her mother in law was. This is why Albert had an assortment of surnames. 
			
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				Sarah Hartell Godson only married once from census evidence
 
 Looks like Albert married under Beckett..if James Beckett was father or just his stepfather that is unknown. But seemed Albert used both Godson & Beckett but was one person, same man.
 
 Does not mean his mother was a bigamist.
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				Thanks for picking up where I left off yesterday, Cas. Well done for tying all those pre and post marriage births and name changes
 
 Agree Sarah was no bigamist
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				Quite a few twists Mabel...
 
 Going back to the 1886 birth reg, there is this baptism
 
 Albert Hartell
 Birth Date   11 May 1886
 Birth Place   Staffordshire, England
 Sub registration district   Stafford
 
 Also mistranscribed/misheard under Hartle, but you would have to view register to confirm, or BC
 
 Albert Hartle
 Birth Date   11 May 1886
 Baptism Date   1 Aug 1886
 Baptism Place   St Mary, Stafford, Stafford, England
 Mother   Sarah Hartle
 FHL Film Number   1526110
 
 Reg seems to have been born Staffordshire moved back to Leicester with mother and was raised by the Beckett family. Sarah died 1905, James Beckett died 1926.  1911 has 4 children born 1 died.  Mary 1889, Elizabeth 1890, (Hannah b 1893 d 1898) Lilian 1895. So possibly James may or may not be father of Albert, but treated him so, at least accepting Albert's son as grandson.
 
 Maybe by the time Annie was settled, Reg wished to stay with the Beckett family..some things are unknown.
 
 1939 he is with Horace & Lilian Bonnet nee Beckett they married 1919.
 
 Cas
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				Also incase you are not aware this looks like Reg. I have no access to newspapers.
 
 Arthur Andrew Reginald Godson
 Topic   Crime
 Residence Date   8 Feb 1937
 Residence Place   Leicester, Leicestershire, England
 Publication Date   8 Feb 1937
 Publication Place   Leicester, Leicestershire, England
 Newspaper Title   Leicester Mercury
 
 Cas
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				Thank you both again for this extra information. I'm starting to pull it all together.
 My grandma told us kids that Reg was left with Albert's family and she came back to Leicester where she eventually met and married my grandfather, who was much older than her.
 My mum told me lots of stories about her childhood and her life before meeting my dad and after marriage. Reg never figured in any of these stories until around the 30s/40s. My dad knew Reg but thought he was my youngest aunt's boyfriend.
 Of course stories often get muddled and mistold and my mum died before I could delve deeper into uncle Reg so all I have is a few words muttered between my oldest uncle and my cousin.
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				That newspaper report -this is the summary:
 
 Andrew Arthur Reginald Godson,age 22, a dyer of 44 Farnham St, pleaded guilty to stealing 2 womans garments, the property of Mrs Laura Cook. (Specifically this was a pair of camiknickers and an underslip).
 
 It's an odd story. He was found upstairs in the home of Walter Charles Young, a butcher of Clyde St. He appeared "dazed", had had a lot to drink and "appeared a nervous wreck". It took 4 men to hold him in a chair. He "came round" at the police station the following morning alleging no recollection or understanding of the incident. Although he wasn't known to the police, Walter Young alleged it was the 2nd time he'd caught Reg in the house (so I'm guessing they were known to each other?). The court discharged him, after hearing he'd "signed the pledge". It mentions that Reg was adopted by his aunt as a small child.
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				Thank you for posting that. I haven't seen the full article only that he was found acting dazed in someone's house. It gives a bit more of an insight into this man. I wonder if he was formally adopted, it fits in with Grandma's story of her being persuaded to return to Leicester but handing her baby over to his father's family to raise. 
 In aware that he did something unforgivable when he returned to his mother and half siblings and theee are a couple of things it could be but I'm not sure I'll ever be able to prove any them but they all held a grudge against him, even my older cousins, who refused to discuss it with me. Its nice to know he wasnt a regular offender though.
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				Formal adoption (paperwork) only began in 1926. 
 
 Adoption Act 1926
 Various bills and several parliamentary committees during the 1920s had tried to arrive at legal procedures for the adoption of children. Although adoption did take place, it had no legal sanction and adopted children did not have the rights of natural children.
 
 The Adoption Act which was passed in 1926 introduced adoption procedures for the first time.
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				Thanks for that information, Cas.
 That also answers a question I have about another person (unrelated to this family.) who was adopted as a young child.