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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: bykerlads on Monday 28 April 25 16:33 BST (UK)
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Can anyone tell me where Bute Terrace was/is in Slaithwaite?
I have it as the address on a birth certificate in 1908.
It might not be a whole long terrace of houses. It could just have been a group of 2 or 3.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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House for sale Bute Terrace, Hill, Slaithwaite in 1906 - John Jagger, Builder
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It isn’t coming up on address search at FindMyPast, so yes, probably a short stretch of houses on a larger road.
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Perhaps if you tell us a name we could try to find the family in 1911?
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Thanks Rosie99.
It is John Jagger builder that I am looking into. His twin sons were born at Bute terrace despite the fact that the family was from Brighouse.
| am trying to find out if they lived at Bute terrace or just owned it or were staying there when the birth happened.
Any further info much appreciated.
Could I ask where you found the report of the house sale?
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I think Rosie99 may have committed a typo. Here is a version of the ad that says “Hill Top”
7 December 1906: Colne Valley Guardian
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Hill Top, Slaithwaite labelled on the 1932 25 inch map:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/125647245#zoom=4.9&lat=3237&lon=12891&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/125647245#zoom=4.9&lat=3237&lon=12891&layers=BT)
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My conclusion from what is detailed below is that Bute Terrace was built after 1904 and quickly became known as Mona Street (specifically, it was the houses on the south side of Mona Street).
In the Electoral Registers of 1909, Colne Valley, Township of Slaithwaite there are two people listed who include Bute Terrace in their address:
John William Carter, 5, Bute Terrace, Mona Street
Thomas Henry Shaw, 15 Bute Terrace, Mona Street
In the 1911 census a Thomas Henry Shaw is at 15 Mona Street. [The only candidate that I see for JWC is at nearby Royd Street.]
Going along the odd-numbered 1911 entries for Mona Street there is:
David Mosley at no.9 has written in 9 Bute Street on the main page but the enumerator has entered 9 Mona Street.
The same thing has happened at no. 41: the resident has used Bute Street, the enumerator, Mona Street.
At no.45 the resident has used Bute Terrace, Hill Top [no number]; the enumerator has used 45 Mona Street.
At no. 47, resident has Bute Terrace, Hill Top; enumerator has Mona Street.
Here is an overlay map view of Mona Street with the overlay set to 0% to show the modern map with house numbers. The odd numbers in Mona Street are on the south side. Increase the overlay to 100% to reveal the situation on the 6 inch map from 1904 (published 1906). Mona Street is not built at that date. It is however shown on the later map that I linked to in reply #6
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.7&lat=53.62569&lon=-1.88268&layers=168&b=osm&o=0 (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.7&lat=53.62569&lon=-1.88268&layers=168&b=osm&o=0)
Going from this evidence, and from the absence of newspaper references to Bute Terrace (apart from the Jagger advertisements) or indeed to Bute Street, I conclude that the name Bute Terrace was quickly replaced by Mona Street.
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Allan,
Thanks for the detailed reply.
It looks as if the Jaggers might have been living briefly in Bute Terrace/Mona st when their twins
John Jagger was the builder who built the row of shops in Carr Lane, Slaithwaite. The shops celebrate their centenary this year and a small research project is under way into the history of the shops.
A look at the original owner and builder seems useful to give a bit of background to the findings.
I have just gone up to Mona Street to look at the houses. I had hoped there might be some small decorative features like the ones on the shops. However, the houses are all unadorned.
The buildings housing shops in Carr Lane have interesting and perhaps unexpected columnar stone 'swags' and, until the 1970's, sported large stone finial-like decorations on the roof.
As regards John Jagger, the interesting question is where did he get his money from to start his building enterprise. He did marry into The Marshalls ( well-known in the buiding trade), who in turn started out as labourers. A story of families making good, I'd say.
Thanks again.
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That’s great that you were able to look at Mona Street. I did look on Street View for as name or a date plaque, but nothing can beat being there in person.
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A quick foray on Anc**try has revealed where-he-got-the-brass and the source of the name Bute terrace:
John Jagger m'd Annie Marshall. Her father Soloman was stone merchant, formerly a quarry labourer, started to 'do well' sometime from 1881-1891. I think we can deduce that the Marshall father-in-law helped JJ go into the building business, from being a joiner, sometime early 1900's. Hence the houses in Mona St/Bute Ter.
The name Bute terr and the Marshall residence in Brighouse - Oban house- owe their Scottish names to Soloman's wife Sarah who was b. Scotland/ Glasgow/ Kilmarnoch. Maybe Mona also has a Celtic link.
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I seem to recall seeing that there was/is a Bute Terrace in Brighouse – is there a connection there too?
Added: my interpretation of the renaming as Mona Street was that the local authority stepped in, but I have no evidence for that.