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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Greaves on Monday 28 April 25 15:37 BST (UK)
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William DANIELS was born 02 Aug 1817 at Southgate and was baptised on 15 Mar 1818 at All Saints in Edmonton. His father was William DANIELS, a labourer, and his mother was Rebecca HOBBS. He was the couple's second child and second son.
There is no reliable record that I can find for William post his baptism. I suspect he died young, but I can't find a burial record.
It would be nice to know what happended to him.
He doesn't appear with the family in the 1841 census. Neither does his elder brother John (b 1815), who I believe was doing military service in India. His sister Esther (b 1818) is with the family. I assume that William is either dead or left home, but can prove neither option.
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Possible marriage Edmonton RD Dec qtr 1839 :-\
DANIELS. William
SINTON Mary Ann
Edmonton RD 3 69
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Probably not ::)
That marriage has him as a Widower of full age with father William Daniels (Dead). He can be found in 1841 Woolwich age 28 bn in County occ Licensed Victualler.
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The father of my William, also William DANIELS, was very much alive in 1839. He died on Christmas Day, 1876.
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There's a William 28 father William who marries in Norfolk in 1845.
Residence at time of marriage looks like Sergeants Inn Fleet St London
Bride is Temperance Watson who is married in 1851 (husband not with her) widowed in 1861
Add in 1851 is 8 Sergeants Inn - is it Inn? It seems to be a street called that rather than a public house
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Interesting. I don't suppose that the marriage register names the witnesses, just in case they were relatives.
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Serjeants Inn on the 1851 town plan
https://maps.nls.uk/view/229949411#zoom=7.3&lat=7630&lon=11074&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/229949411#zoom=7.3&lat=7630&lon=11074&layers=BT)
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When this William married in 1845 his occupation was "Counsel's Clerk"
Believe this is him in 1851 aged 32, married, born Cromwell, Middsx--occupation Barrister's Clerk
ref 2182 37 125
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Witnesses were John S Turner & Martha Watkins I think - copy of marriage certificate online
No occupation given for either of the fathers
Believe it says widower? for William but bit unclear
There is an 11 year old William Frederick Daniels son with Temperance in 1851 so he could have been from a previous marriage
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Re the witnesses they are relations of Temperance. In 1881 she is with Martha Turner nee Watson who married Jeppings Thomas Turner.
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All very interesting, but I just have a nagging feeling - not that I can find any proof - that he either died in infancy or followed his brother into the military. His elder brother John apparently served with the military attached to the East India Company.
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I think we may be able to rule out this William. In 1851 Temperance is at Sergeants Inn, Extra Parochial, Saint Dunstan-In-The-West, West London (City of London), London & Middlesex, England, next door are
Jane Daniel Head Widow Female 67 1784 House keeper Woodford, Essex, England
Jane Daniel Daughter Unmarried Female 29 1822 Dress maker Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Orsband Daniel Son Unmarried Male 26 1825 Barristers clerk Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
A William Daniels baptised 25th February 1824 St Dunstans, parents William & Jane.
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