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Title: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: littleem1906 on Sunday 27 April 25 12:22 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm looking for a William Harbidge (1786-?) post 1841. He was born and baptised in Belbroughton in 1786. Father: Samuel. Mother: Mary.

He married Maria Latchford in 1810 in Birmingham, but then seems to have stayed in the Bromsgrove area (perhaps only going to Birmingham to marry).

In 1841, he's living in Bromsgrove with wife Maria and son Charles. Occupation - nailer.

I know he had three children (that I've found): James (1813), William (1819) and Charles (1828).

There is a death in 1851 for a William Harbidge in Belbroughton who would have been the right age. However, there is also a William Harbidge in the 1861 census living in Bromsgrove who has the right age and occupation (nailer). He is listed as living as a widow.

The one who died in 1851 was living in Fenn Brook and the person present at death was a Mary Waldron. I don't know who this person is. When looking for any other William Harbidges who died post 1861 (assuming the William in 1861 could be mine), I only found the following death in Bromsgrove on GRO:
William Harbach - Died 1866 aged 81 - Bromsgrove

Which William is mine? The one who died in 1851 or the one living in 1861? If I could find him in the 1851 census this would help.
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 27 April 25 13:37 BST (UK)
In 1851 there is a William Harbidge age 66 with wife Ann in Bromsgrove occ Nailmaker
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 27 April 25 13:44 BST (UK)
FreeREG has a Burial 30 Mar 1851, Holy Trinity, Belbroughton
Age 66, abode Belbroughton Bell Heath

Bell Heath was where Charles was born on his bapt.

If this is the one whose cert you have Mary Waldron may have been a neighbour/nurse present at death.

There are 2 burials for a SAMUEL H same church;
30 Jun 1815 age 70
02 Sep 1825 age 11 (poss. son of William/Maria?)
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 27 April 25 14:10 BST (UK)
I cant see William/Maria or Charles in 1851 Census.
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 27 April 25 15:35 BST (UK)
What happens to his wife - is she around as married or widowed in 1851 or has she died? **

You may have to get the death for the other one to see if that confirms it  :-\

**possible death in 1849 buried Belbroughton
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 27 April 25 15:46 BST (UK)
In 1851 there is a William Harbidge age 66 with wife Ann in Bromsgrove occ Nailmaker

In 1861 this William is still living at High Street, Bromsgrove occ Nailer but now a widower age 76.

ADDED He is in Bromsgrove in 1841 with wife Ann
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: jaywit on Sunday 27 April 25 16:00 BST (UK)
The 1851census was taken on the night of Sunday 30th March, so if William had been buried that day his widow probably had more on her mind than filling in census.
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 27 April 25 16:01 BST (UK)

In 1841, he's living in Bromsgrove with wife Maria and son Charles. Occupation - nailer.


He is in Fen (?) Belbroughton in 1841  :-\

ADDED.  This address is next to Bell Heath on the 1841 census
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 27 April 25 16:29 BST (UK)

Burial at Holy Trinity, Belbroughton
Maria Harbidge
Age 66
Burial date 10 Sep 1849
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 28 April 25 08:47 BST (UK)
So looks like both deceased by 1851 Census;

From me;
William Harbidge
Burial 30 Mar 1851, Holy Trinity, Belbroughton
Age 66, abode Belbroughton Bell Heath



From rosie99
Burial at Holy Trinity, Belbroughton
Maria Harbidge
Age 66
Burial date 10 Sep 1849

The Bromsgrove William was likely bapt there 27 Dec 1784, Father HENRY

1841 we have;
Wm Harbur 55
Ann Harbur 50

1851 Census
William Harbridge 66 Head Mar born Bromsgrove
Ann Harbridge 63 Wife born Bromsgrove


1861 as you mentioned he is widowed.
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: littleem1906 on Thursday 01 May 25 20:29 BST (UK)
Thank you so much all! I had a feeling the William who died in 1851 could be more likely but the one alive in 1861 really threw me.
Title: Re: William Harbidge - Dead or Alive in 1851?
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 02 May 25 08:42 BST (UK)
Yes I can understand the Bromsgrove William in 1861 was confusing.

Looks like you are on the right track now :)