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Wondered if anyone could shed any light on this family?
Thomas Ellis married Martha in Loppington about 1762. Martha died in 1776 and is buried there but as far as I can see none of the 8 children were married there.
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It might help us if you list the children with their birth years and check whether any died as young children ::).
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1763 Martha
1758 Elizabeth
1760 John
1766 Thomas
1768 Robert
1775 Anne
1773 Samuel
1771 William
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Only death I see is Martha 1770 Loppington
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Possibly Anne's death same year of birth on Family search ???
Name Anne Ellis
Sex Female
Father's Name Thos. Ellis
Mother's Name Martha
Event Type Burial
Event Date 27 August 1775
Event Place Loppington, Shropshire, England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J84K-6ZV?lang=en
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Elizabeth 1758
Name Elizabeth Ellis
Father's Name Thomas Ellis
Mother's Name Martha Ellis
Event Type Christening
Event Date 26 January 1758
Event Place Loppington, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom
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Martha was buried 21 February 1776 wife of Thomas Ellis
Mr. Ellis was buried 24 January 1784 of Great Ness
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Great Ness is 9 miles from Loppington.
Maybe one of the girls married and moved there, or a son moved for work.
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Did Thomas remarry?
After Martha died he had 4 children 10 and under.
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Could this be John 1760 ???
Name John Ellis
Father's Name Thos Ellis
Event Type Burial
Event Date 17 March 1763
Event Place Shropshire, England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7BF5-TPPZ?lang=en
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Weird one in 1766 (no first name) Possible Thomas ???
Name Ellis
Sex Male
Father's Name Thomas Ellis
Mother's Name Martha
Event Type Christening
Event Date 1766
Event Place Loppington, Shropshire, England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQT3-M9K?lang=en
Edit:
Been thinking possibly a quick Christening due to health reasons and the name hadn't been decided on at the time ??? ???
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Did Thomas remarry?
After Martha died he had 4 children 10 and under.
How do you know this?
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Martha was buried in 1776 - the younger children are the ones that are referred to in amondg's post ;D
1763 Martha
1758 Elizabeth
1760 John
1766 Thomas
1768 Robert
1775 Anne
1773 Samuel
1771 William
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For some reason typing in Loppington. Brings up Middle
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Loppington and Middle are seperate parishes.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/ParishIndex
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There appears to be a will for the father Thomas Ellis in 1784 Greatness / Great Ness / Great Nefs
Spec: He may have also been from there, and...perhaps went back to get help with his young family?
The children are listed in wrong order of dates, so marriage might be more likely to be found within a decade or so before & around 1758. J.J.
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Can you explain this previous post from years ago? Are you having us search for something you already know, but didn't share with us? We all make some duplicates but you have a lot of previous threads for this very same family to which you could have added this request.
I know my GFx5 was a Thomas Ellis who married a Mary Parton in 1786 iirc, Wellington, on their marriage cert is is signed by John Ellis, father or brother I presume. Trouble is there are 2 likely candidates, one born 1766 to John and Sussanah the other born in 1764 to John and Jane. To make things worse they both have brothers called John! One married Mary the other it seems married a Priscilla Carman. I know the Cadmans were in the area too. Unless I can find either in a census\death cert I think I,m stuck!
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=808818.msg6683022
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Can you explain this previous post from years ago? Are you having us search for something you already know, but didn't share with us? We all make some duplicates but you have a lot of previous threads for this very same family to which you could have added this request.
I know my GFx5 was a Thomas Ellis who married a Mary Parton in 1786 iirc, Wellington, on their marriage cert is is signed by John Ellis, father or brother I presume. Trouble is there are 2 likely candidates, one born 1766 to John and Sussanah the other born in 1764 to John and Jane. To make things worse they both have brothers called John! One married Mary the other it seems married a Priscilla Carman. I know the Cadmans were in the area too. Unless I can find either in a census\death cert I think I,m stuck!
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=808818.msg6683022
I don't know they are the same family. I, m trying to find John born around 1758 according to the 1821 census. I don't know wether he was born in the area or wether he moved there. This is one possibility I, m trying to find out about.
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Weird one in 1766 (no first name) Possible Thomas ???
Name Ellis
Sex Male
Father's Name Thomas Ellis
Mother's Name Martha
Event Type Christening
Event Date 1766
Event Place Loppington, Shropshire, England
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQT3-M9K?lang=en
Edit:
Been thinking possibly a quick Christening due to health reasons and the name hadn't been decided on at the time ??? ???
Thomas
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/sources/MLTT-TVH
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Can you explain this previous post from years ago? Are you having us search for something you already know, but didn't share with us? We all make some duplicates but you have a lot of previous threads for this very same family to which you could have added this request.
I know my GFx5 was a Thomas Ellis who married a Mary Parton in 1786 iirc, Wellington, on their marriage cert is is signed by John Ellis, father or brother I presume. Trouble is there are 2 likely candidates, one born 1766 to John and Sussanah the other born in 1764 to John and Jane. To make things worse they both have brothers called John! One married Mary the other it seems married a Priscilla Carman. I know the Cadmans were in the area too. Unless I can find either in a census\death cert I think I,m stuck!
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=808818.msg6683022
I don't know they are the same family. I, m trying to find John born around 1758 according to the 1821 census. I don't know wether he was born in the area or wether he moved there. This is one possibility I, m trying to find out about.
John, crhistened 30 Dec 1760
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/sources/MLT1-579
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This thread actually inquires about a Thomas...but I do see what you mean...You're wondering if he's the father of Thomas & John. (Making sure this is an actual search & not a one name study researched by others)
Wondered if anyone could shed any light on this family? Thomas Ellis married Martha in Loppington about 1762. Martha died in 1776 and is buried there but as far as I can see none of the 8 children were married there.
Best to use the search above & look for previous searches as there are 8 threads for a "Thomas Ellis" & several mentioning John as well. Very frustrating to repeat searches, so please take the time to link them and not start new searches on similar subjects..
To add a wrench into the works...(I see no Loppington marriage for Thomas & Martha)
Martha Boot or booth b.1731 m.1755 Acton, Cheshire, England
Cheshire Marriage Licence Bonds And Allegations
-Charles Ellis or Elliss Christening 10 March 1756 Acton (near Nantwich), Cheshire, Eng.
Parents Martha, Thomas Ellis
Note that Acton to Loppington is about 40 miles....Loppington to Wellington about 35
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See Reply#17