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Title: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: pegwill on Friday 18 April 25 09:22 BST (UK)
Hi Guys

I wonder if anyone can help me please ?

I’m trying to find a record of the marriage of Jeremiah Markham (1778- 1860) and Mary Robinson (1786-1845). I believe it happened around 1805. It appears that this would have been Jeremiahs second marriage, the first being in 1801 to Letitia xxxx, (surname not clear but various spellings). All I can find is that there are many references to the marriage, but also no records, I have also found other references regarding her surname such as Mary Arditt but still no records seem to be available.

Many thanks

William 
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 18 April 25 09:46 BST (UK)
Same post here:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=890913.0;topicseen#msg7648543
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 18 April 25 10:17 BST (UK)
Is he the Jeremiah MARKHAM, labourer of Newbottle (and Mary) who has children baptised from around 1813 to 1825?

Modified to add:
His marriage in 1801 to Letitia ALSBART (?) in Deddington, Oxfordshire. And says in 1851 (at Newbottle) born in North Aston, Oxfordshire.
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: ColC on Friday 18 April 25 10:39 BST (UK)
Laetitia Markham
Event Type   Burial
Event Date   13 July 1803
Event Place   Pillerton-Hersey, Warwickshire

Deddington, Oxfordshire is 15 miles SE of Pillerton Hersey, Warwickshire.

Colin
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 18 April 25 10:40 BST (UK)
Might be an idea to ask a moderator to merge the 2 threads, doubling up research is frustrating.  :)
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 18 April 25 10:43 BST (UK)
Doesn't help with a marriage, but there is a mention of Jeremiah MARKHAM of Brackley in 1849 involved in an action to recover monies owing on groceries and drapery. He admitted owing the money but the dispute was about how much he could pay back per month.
   Saturday,  Oct. 27, 1849
Publication: Northampton Mercury
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: ColC on Friday 18 April 25 10:48 BST (UK)
1841 census (I wonder if Mr & Mrs King are Mary's parents)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7Q4-31L?lang=en

I agree the two posts need to be merged.

Colin
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: Gadget on Friday 18 April 25 11:29 BST (UK)
I agree and in Northamptonshire.

There is a Newbottle in our area but not in Northumberland.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NTH/Newbottle

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DUR/HoughtonleSpring



Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: pegwill on Sunday 20 April 25 10:10 BST (UK)
Good Morning

Sorry for the duplicate posts, I have asked the Moderator to merge the two as suggested.
 
Thanks for the replies, I need to review and digest the info.

Thanks again

William
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: pegwill on Thursday 24 April 25 09:20 BST (UK)
Hi Guys

A bit more clarification as far as I can find
Jeremiah Markham
- DOB born 1778
- Place Whirtlebury, Northants
- Parents - Hannah Marriott and John Markham
- Marriages - Laetitia Alsbark - 1801 (various surname spellings) Deddington, Oxfordshire
and Possible marriage to Mary Robinson  suggested to be 1805 no records seem to be available

Mary Robinson (the subject of this post and search for information)
-DOB born 1776
-Place Stoke, Northants
-Parents – Alice and William Robinson
-Marriage – To Jeremiah Markham suggested date1805 .
So I’m still trying to track down a record of Mary’s marriage to Jeremiah.
Thanks once again for looking and the comments so far

Regards
William
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: amondg on Thursday 01 May 25 03:53 BST (UK)
If you cannot find a marriage how do you know her maiden name?

The children were all born before civil registration.
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: amondg on Thursday 01 May 25 04:39 BST (UK)
1841 Jeremiah Markham 55  Ag. lab. says he was NOT born in the County
Mary  55  Yes
Thomas 20
Mary 15
Elizabeth 15

1851
Jeremiah Markham 70 widower born North Aston Oxon.
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Children of Jeremiah and Mary baptised at Newbottle
Martha  2 November 1806
Ann bap 20 November 1808
John bap 30 September 1810
William bap 7 March 1813
Thomas bap 6 August 1815
Charlotte bap 29 June 1817
Susannah bap. 6 February 1820
Mary bap. 21 August 1822
Elizabeth bap. 27 February 1825
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Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: amondg on Thursday 01 May 25 04:56 BST (UK)
Mary Markham death registered Brackley 1845 was 66 years old so born circa 1779.

Jeremiah Markham death registered Brackley 1860 was 81  (parish register has about or above 81) buried 13 January 1860.
from the Brackley Work House.  Born circa 1779.

Ref Ancestry.
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: amondg on Thursday 01 May 25 09:01 BST (UK)
IF they followed naming patterns.

First daughter Martha named after maternal grandmother
Second daughter Ann named after paternal grandmother  (possibly Hannah)
First son John named after paternal grandfather
Second son William named after maternal grandfather

Mary's parents would be William and Martha.
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: amondg on Thursday 01 May 25 09:14 BST (UK)
Martha married James Page, 7 June 1827
Ann married John Moss 22 May 1837  witness Joseph Baker*
John married Hannah Seeney 9 August 1830 at Kings Sutton (Hannah Seeney her mother present at his death 1849).
William ? possible death 1814 Kings Sutton.
Thomas married Esther Rogers 11 February 1848
Charlotte married Robert Baker 9 February 1837 both minors (Robert of Kings Sutton) Witness Joseph Baker*
Susannah married George Grisold 3 July 1843 witness Thomas Markham
Mary married John Barister 16 November 1841 witness Thomas Markham
Elizabeth married James Jones 8 May 1843  witness Thomas Markham
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: pegwill on Thursday 01 May 25 10:10 BST (UK)

Hi Guys

Thanks for all the info which I hope to be able to use later
A questioned was asked ‘How do I know that Jeremiah’s wife was ‘Mary Robinson’ I gained this information from other researchers. However while this was mentioned in their research I could not find any substantiating records.

I concentrated on Jeremiahs records and could only find a record for his first Letitia Alsbark  surname various spellings in 1801. Research from other indicates that Letitia passed in 1803 but not records could be found to confirm that either.

I have searches as much as I can on Jeremia Makham but locating the necessary record for conformation just cannot seem to be located.

Thanks once again
Regards
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 01 May 25 10:31 BST (UK)

 Research from other indicates that Letitia passed in 1803 but not records could be found to confirm that either.


ColC gave the burial in reply #3. Buried 13 July 1803.
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: pegwill on Saturday 03 May 25 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi Maddys52

I must have missed that while I was concentrating on Mary Robinson marriage records

Regards
 
Title: Re: Jeremiah Markham - Mary Robinson
Post by: pegwill on Sunday 04 May 25 09:17 BST (UK)
Good Morning Guys

Distilling the above information a bit further gives the following information

-   Jeremiah’s first wife (Letitia) was buried  13th July 1803

-   Jeremiah and Mary’s first born (Martha) was baptised 2nd November 1806 (Newbottle, Northants)

It would appear then that the marriage to Mary took place between these dates (1803-1806). Assuming the they were married before Martha was born, say one year this puts the marriage about 1805 or there abouts, so quite a small window. I assumed the marriage took place in Newbottle but still cannot find any record of this. So still a mystery.

Thanks for looking

Regards