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Title: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 15 April 25 07:41 BST (UK)
In 1881 Walter Alcock was living at 88 Sandy Lane, Aston with his family and in 1901 he was living at 49 Carlton Road, Aston.

1881 Walter Alcock 1854, Elizabeth 1855, Jane 1878, and Fanny Gertrude 1881.

(Jane Alcock 1878 was living with her Grand parents in 1891 in Stratford Road)

1901 Walter Alcock 1853, Elizabeth 1853, Gertrude 1881, Lucy 1883, Annie 1886 Mabel 1888, and Nellie 1890.

Can anyone see Walter and his family in 1891.
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 15 April 25 08:13 BST (UK)
No birthplaces given in post

1881
Walter - Wolverhampton
Elizabeth & children - Birmingham

Can’t see anything for them on Ancestry or Family Search
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 15 April 25 09:00 BST (UK)
Could be another letter has been added at the start ie Walcock or Balcock.

Have you tried using *cock?
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 15 April 25 09:25 BST (UK)
I cant find them even without a surname ::)
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 15 April 25 09:40 BST (UK)
In both 1881 & 1901 the family were living in Aston. All the children were born Aston including Nellie Alcock born 1890, so I'm assuming, maybe wrongly, that the family was living in Aston in 1891.

So, I've searched in Aston for all the family members without using a surname, but naming another member of the family; ie Nellie 1890 & Mabel ... Mabel 1888 & Lucy, etc , with no luck.

I don't think the family have been transcribed in FindMyPast, but was hoping that someone could see them in another family history search facility.
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 15 April 25 09:45 BST (UK)
Tried Ancestry and Familysearch.Org with no luck sorry
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 15 April 25 09:53 BST (UK)
I guess the family were just not recorded in the '91 census, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 15 April 25 09:56 BST (UK)
Looks that way.
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 15 April 25 13:13 BST (UK)
Have you checked the address from Nellie’s baptism in 1891 census to see who was living there?
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 15 April 25 13:55 BST (UK)
How do I check the address ?
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 15 April 25 14:12 BST (UK)
The image of the baptism is on Anc

Nellie Alcock
Baptism 15 Jan 1890 Bordesley, Holy Trinity, Warwickshire
Parish as it Appears    Bordesley, Holy Trinity
Father    Walter Alcock - Plumber
Mother    Elizabeth Alcock
Address 5 Brampton Place, Larches Place Street

Kay

Added - Looking at other census years I wonder whether the address should be Bradford Place, Larches Street??
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 15 April 25 16:56 BST (UK)
According to this map the address is Brompton Place (back of Larches Street).

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19.0&lat=52.46142&lon=-1.87627&layers=173&right=MapTilerSat

I've tried looking up the address on the address search on Findmypast and nothing comes up.  However I think it is 5 back of 64 Larches Street.  Unfortunately Arthur, Lucy, Emily, Rose and Violet Rafferty are living there in 1891.
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 15 April 25 17:58 BST (UK)
Well done... that was certainly well found. Nellie was born 15 months before the census so I guess they must have moved.

In 1896 Lilian Beatrice Alcock was born, and died, to Walter and Elizabeth,  does that give us a clue?
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 15 April 25 18:12 BST (UK)
Lilian Beatrice Alcock was baptised on 4 March 1896 at Holy Trinity, Bordesley. Parents Walter Alcock (Plumber) and Elizabeth.  Their address was 7 Green Lanes, Small Heath.

Off to have a look on the 1891 census.

ADDED: Baptism says Green Lanes but there is also a Green Lane in Bordesley, Aston.
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 15 April 25 19:02 BST (UK)
James Sharpe, Elizabeth Sharpe and Mary Ann Billyard are at 7 Green Lane Bordesley in 1891.

Hmmm, back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: Walter Alcock 1853
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 15 April 25 19:13 BST (UK)
Walter Allcock married Elizabeth Pritchard 1877 reg. Birmingham

Could the family be with the Pritchard's in 1891 and mistakenly listed as such?

Jane is with her Allcock grandparents.