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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: ThumbelinaPM on Sunday 13 April 25 17:57 BST (UK)
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On this census it shows two of my Gt Grandparents children who are deceased by this time. Is that possible?
I have a death record for Catherine Ann (twin of Mary Ann) who died 4 March 1900
and for Michael Loran who died 14 Sept 1900.
Yet both are shown on the census record.
My Gran became the second Catherine Loran when she was born 4 Feb 1903.
Maybe there was a second Michael Loran born around 1905 but there is no record of such.
Any ideas anyone?
Thank you.
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It happened quite often, people just did not understand what they needed to fill in.
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ah right. They've said 8 out of their 9 children are living at 1911 which is also wrong as it was only 5.
Thanks anyway
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Must admit I found it in my own family on 1911, actually hsloed me so I was quite pleased
LM
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I've never come across this before. I can see on the screenshot that the mother had given birth to 9 live children and there seems to be 8 still alive. I can't imagine that, given the specific question about live children in this census, a mistake could have been made.
What is the mother's maiden surname?
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I see now the mother's MS is Allan.
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That's correct - Allan\Allen
From Mullingar, Westmeath
Soneone else said it was quite common for deceased to be listed in a census as people didn't understand the context but it's the first time I've come across it.
I do have their birth and death records.
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The 1911 census was the first census in Scotland were all children born during the marriage were to be recorded even if they had died which appeared in its own column. For example children born during marriage 7 children still alive 5. Possibly what has happened is that they misunderstood this requirement and listed them as still iving in the actual household in 1911. Worth a thought.
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My grandmother was did it but the names were crossed through, she must have realised she had made a mistake.
LM
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There are several posts on rootschat about errors on the 1911 children born / died etc, I was trying to help out on one last week. :)
I also have an example in my tree where the number of children noted is less than those actually born to the couple, they appear to have just counted those still living at home.
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I also have an example in my tree where the number of children noted is less than those actually born to the couple, they appear to have just counted those still living at home.
Exactly as they were supposed to do. Anyone living at that address on the particular night that the census was taken, not anyone usually living in the house but absent on that night.
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The question in 1911 about numbers of children is not about the number of people staying there on that night, it says -
Children born alive to present marriage and is divided into 3 columns - Total children born alive - Children still living - Children who have died
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Quite likely people either didn't read it properly or couldn't read at all, they did their best.
LM