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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => Topic started by: Marmalady on Sunday 13 April 25 11:49 BST (UK)
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I have found a copy of the Attestation papers for my husband's Great-Grandmother's brother Abel Plant
He had gone out to NZ from the UK just before the First World War.
His Attestation Papers dated 1917 state that he is single but that he has one person "wholly dependant on him"
Would that person be himself, or has he acquired a dependant somewhere along the way?
It would not be his mother back in England as he had several siblings to provide any care / financial assistance required.
Is there any way to find out who the dependant was?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61564/records/201398579
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Note that your link does not work unless someone has Ancestry account.
However there is no need to link to Ancestry as NZ war records are freely available from the national archives
https://collections.archives.govt.nz/en/web/arena/search#/entity/aims-archive/R20801725/
It would not be him. The dependant could be a parent, sibling, etc. It could of course have been an error or misunderstanding - he said he was sending money back to his mother in England, and they marked that as "one".
The only clue is that he gives his next of kin as his sister, Mrs E. Greening in Havelock.
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Just because he had siblings he could still be the one responsible for caring for a dependent.
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Thanks for the revised link
The Mrs E Greening would be his married sister who had gone out to NZ with her husband a few years earlier.
There were 3 other siblings still in England
So it can only be some sort of misunderstanding -- especially if he was sending money home to his mother.
Though I cannot imagine he was able to spare much from a Hotel Porter's wage
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Hello.
Out of curiosity had a quick look at our NZ Papers Past web site.
Thought I could have been on a winner with 114 hits over a 50 year search period -
“Able Plant” 1900 ~ 1950
Only to find 113 of those hits appear to have found “-able plant”
Below is a link to the Manawatu Standard 21/3/1921 page 3, under the caption of LICENCING LAWS
Re barman Able Plant serving liqueur. So not much help.
Papers Past | Newspapers | Manawatu Standard | 21 March 1921 | LICENSING LAWS.
paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/MS19210321.2.19?end_date=31-12-1950&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&query=Able+Plant&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA&start_date=01-01-1900
Alan.
EDIT: PS Sorry not having much luck posting a direct link.
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Alan, I think you will find the man you were searching for in Papers Past was Abel Plant. 😊
Minniehaha.
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Oh dear looks like I should give up being curious, when I can not even spot typo's and spelling mistakes.
Thanks
Alan.
PS ... And then again the press had a typo. Same search but with "Abel Plant" comes up with only two hits. One that is valid, in the Evening Post, March 22nd 1921, reporting under the Manawatu correspondent banner, that Abel PLANT, barman was before the local court.
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Oh dear looks like I should give up being curious, when I can not even spot typo's and spelling mistakes.
Thanks
Alan.
PS ... And then again the press had a typo. Same search but with "Abel Plant" comes up with only two hits. One that is valid, in the Evening Post, March 22nd 1921, reporting under the Manawatu correspondent banner, that Abel PLANT, barman was before the local court.
Not to worry Alan. Very easily done... :)
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https://collections.archives.govt.nz/en/web/arena/search#/entity/aims-archive/R26187958/copyright-file--abel-alfred-plant%2C-palmerston-north?q=Abel+plant&source=aims-archive
Minniehaha.
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Thanks Minnie
Tho I am not sure if I understand that link properly
Is it a copyright listing for a souvenir booklet that Abel Plant wrote?
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Sorry, I don't know. It was just a snippet I found connected to Abel.
Minniehaha.
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Thanks Minnie
Tho I am not sure if I understand that link properly
Is it a copyright listing for a souvenir booklet that Abel Plant wrote?
You could ask Archives. I read it as the lodging of a copyright booklet that he may have obtained as a souvenir,?? perhaps looking at the date he may have obtained it during war service?
Or perhaps a booklet he wrote himself
Kultur is the German word for culture.
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Hello again.
Minnehaha has found a link to a copyright application for a souvenir booklet [?] a copy of which is held in the Wellington branch of our National Archives.
Our moderator SPADES is familiar with this archive, and may be able to assist you.
The Patent Office application is dated 1919. Item R26187958
Titled “The rise and fall of Kultur” by one Abel Alfred PLANT, of Palmerston North.
I have not been able to find any other reference to that title as spelt. However pre WWI there were press reports of public lectures across the country, where the subject matter was “The rise and fall of culture”.
Then again in the 1960’s.
Alan.
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Hi Marmalady,
Would you like me to get this file discovered by Minniehaha?
Thanks Alan for the heads up via PM. :)
Spades.
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Oooh yes please, if its no trouble!
Am curious to know if it is something Abel Plant wrote or whether he just donated it to an archive
Many thanks