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Title: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: zhenger on Friday 11 April 25 17:50 BST (UK)
Hi all, I am trying to work out the origins of someone born in Norfolk (apparently in Burnham area) on 5 November 1884. I don't think he was born under the name he later used (Harry John Ellis) or that his father was necessarily his biological father. But I do have the claimed exact date of birth from a baptism record (he was baptised aged 8 years old).

Is there any way of checking (through civil registration records or something else) who was born on a particular day in Norfolk and/or the registration district)? Or some other way of identifying parentage? It could help narrow the possibilities down to a few people. Thanks.
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 11 April 25 18:00 BST (UK)
The GRO index of birth registrations does not show exact birthdates. 

Who are the parents shown on the baptismal record?

Does the baptismal record show him as Harry John Ellis?
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 11 April 25 18:10 BST (UK)
If you look at the baptismal entry - 3 baptisms for the same family on the same day.  No mother shown - father John Ellis abode Ulph

John b 27.11.1882
Albert John 6.7.1883
Henry John 5.11.1884

The first 2 birthdates can’t be correct as there is less than 8mths between the births (see reply 4 below)
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 11 April 25 18:18 BST (UK)
Birth - Henry John Ellis Marsters March qtr 1885 Docking 4b 335 - mmn Meek

1891 - all b Burnham

John Ellis 60 retired butcher
Lenora Marsters 34 housekeeper
John Ellis 9
Albert J 7
Harry J 6
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 11 April 25 18:22 BST (UK)
Albert John Ellis Marsters Sept qtr 1883 Docking  4b 297 mmn Meek
John Ellis Marsters March qtr 1882 Docking 4b 323 mmn Meek (probably born 27.11 1881)
 

Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 11 April 25 18:26 BST (UK)
Joseph Marsters married LEAH Meek March qtr 1877 Docking
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: Rena on Friday 11 April 25 18:42 BST (UK)
If you want to check out anything else, then you will find the Norfolk Registry book online.  Ul;ph is mentioned along with other parishes.

https://archive.org/details/norfolkparishreg04phil/page/n7/mode/2up
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 11 April 25 18:43 BST (UK)
Birth - Leonora Meek Sept qtr 1856 Docking 4b 278 mmn Crane

In 1881 Leah Marsters  24 is shown as married but a pauper

She has 2 children both b Burnham.  Arthur 7 & Ernest 1

Arthur was b Arthur Robert Meek 1873 - illegitimate
Ernest John Marsters mmn Meek was b 1880

In 1881 Ernest John Marsters aged 11 is in the Docking Workhouse

In 1901 Lenora Marsters 44 widow is living alone
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: zhenger on Saturday 12 April 25 08:39 BST (UK)
Thanks a lot for all this. It makes more sense now!
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 12 April 25 09:41 BST (UK)
Introductory para to inquest -

Norfolk News, 15 Oct 1892
Title: Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 12 April 25 10:39 BST (UK)
Leah Meek & Joseph Marsters married 10.2.1877 - both aged 29.  Joseph was a bricklayer

Her father was Samuel - occ labourer & his was Thomas - shoemaker

In 1911 Leah Marsters 54 - widow - is living alone & shown as receiving parish relief.  In 1921 she is in the Kings Lynn WH.  She died in 1925 as Lenora Marsters aged 68