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Title: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: Ashnz on Friday 11 April 25 03:11 BST (UK)
Hello from NZ,

I am interested in the birth of Sarah Greig who was born about 1850/1851 in Bute. She died in quarantine upon her arrival to New Zealand in 1874. Her last known residence in Scotland was Rothesay, Bute, Scotland.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/210165828/sarah-greig (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/210165828/sarah-greig)

Thank you for your assistance  :)

Ashley
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 11 April 25 04:26 BST (UK)
1851 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/590285bfe9379091b149ab98/sarah-greig-1851-bute-north-bute-1850-?locale=en

1861 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59028606e9379091b14ac353/sarah-greig-1861-bute-north-bute-1850-?locale=en

Parents William Greig and Margaret Boyd married in October 1835 in Rothesay.

Baptisms for their children born before civil registration in 1855, do not appear to have been recorded, or records have not survived.
See Scotlands People.

ADDED
1871 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5902866fe9379091b14c69fa/sarah-greig-1871-bute-rothesay-1850-?locale=en

Second ADDITION
1841 census for family
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a142b93f4040b9d6e16ef5a/william-greig-1841-bute-rothesay-nth-bute-1836-?locale=en
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 11 April 25 08:53 BST (UK)
Where did the Greig family live? From the census links provided by Neale1961 in reply#1 the abodes were:

1841 Relivourkie
1851 Greenan
1861 Relivourkie
1871 Meadowcape
(all on the Isle of Bute)

In newspapers there are only two references to Relivourkie, both from 1790, concerning the sale of several lots of land. In this snippet you can see the reference to Relivourkie as part of Lot I, and note, at the bottom of the snippet, the reference to Lot II as the Mill of Greenan.

24 April 1790: Caledonian Mercury
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 11 April 25 08:54 BST (UK)
[continued from previous post]

Here is a side-by-side map view showing the Relivourkie site on the 1869 6 inch OS map, and corresponding to the modern Greenan Mill.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15.6&lat=55.82514&lon=-5.09504&layers=257&right=osm (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15.6&lat=55.82514&lon=-5.09504&layers=257&right=osm)

From this I deduce that the family was in the same place from 1841 to 1861: Relivourkie/Greenan

That leaves 1871–Meadowcape. A newspaper search reveals references to a Meadowcape/Meadowcap on Bute.  Here is a side-by-side view for the location of Meadowcap, just south of Rothesay, and approximately 3 miles from Relivourkie.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15.8&lat=55.82691&lon=-5.05564&layers=257&right=osm (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15.8&lat=55.82691&lon=-5.05564&layers=257&right=osm)

From newspaper items, the Meadowcap/Ashfield area seems to have consisted of a farm and market gardens (strawberries) but there are also cottages for let advertised in the 1870s.
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 11 April 25 10:10 BST (UK)
Ordnance Survey 1855-1864
Parish of North Bute

RELIVOURKIE - A small dwelling house and byre attached the property of the Marquis of Bute.

GREENAN MILL (Corn) - A Corn Mill on the road side leading from Rothsay to St. Ninians Bay, the property of the Marquis of Bute
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 11 April 25 10:50 BST (UK)
More details from Valuation Rolls:

1855
Farm of Relivourkie [transcribed Relevourkie]
proprietor: Marquess of Bute
tenant and occupier: William Greig
yearly rent:  £15 (There are 19 "Farm of..." entries on the page and this is the lowest rent (median £57, maximum £170)

1875
Meadowcap, House and Byre
proprietor: Charles Duncan, merchant
tenant and occupier: William Greig, Quarrier
yearly rent:  £15

A William Greig also tenant/occupier of land at Townhead (just to the north of Meadowcap)
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 11 April 25 10:53 BST (UK)
Ordnance Survey 1855-1864
Parish of North Bute

RELIVOURKIE - A small dwelling house and byre attached the property of the Marquis of Bute.

GREENAN MILL (Corn) - A Corn Mill on the road side leading from Rothsay to St. Ninians Bay, the property of the Marquis of Bute

Where can I access this and similar entries, please?
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 11 April 25 11:04 BST (UK)

Where can I access this and similar entries, please?

Alan, try Scotlands Places.
 Type place name into search bar, but be aware it is sensitive to spelling and doesn’t easily pick up a variety of spellings.
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 11 April 25 11:08 BST (UK)
Thanks!
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 11 April 25 15:27 BST (UK)
Origin of the name "Relivourkie" taken from Landmarks of Scottish life and language William Lytteil, 1877

[Following on from a discussion of a site near Ettrick Bay, reputedly a burial place of the mythical Fomorians.]

Quote
Traces of these sea-rovers may also be found in the name of Reilivourkie, that is, the barrow or grave-mound of the champions; and although the barrow and its rude kistvaens have been removed, the site may still be seen on the south-east side of the road, near Greenan-mill.
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 11 April 25 15:48 BST (UK)
Greenan Mill seems to have been a local hotspot and Glasgow tourist destination, known for John Martin, the "jolly miller". Snippets are in chronological order:

22 December 1854: Glasgow Herald
[the jolly miller prosecuted]

22 March 1856: Buteman
[farmers' sons]

20 February 1861: Glasgow Herald
[a concert]
Title: Re: The birth of Srah Greig
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 11 April 25 21:21 BST (UK)
it is sensitive to spelling and doesn’t easily pick up a variety of spellings.
It doesn't pick up any spelling variations and you can't use wildcards.