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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: Stuart_McDonald on Thursday 10 April 25 03:40 BST (UK)
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Hello everyone
Bit of a nerve I know, but I have discovered a wedding announcement via online newspaper access, but the image or detail is behind a paywall and I am loathe (and cheap) to subscribe for just one record.
If anyone has access to the Peterborough Standard (Cambridgeshire, England), there is reference to a marriage for David Culy & Mary Walker on page 8 of the November 3rd 1888 issue. I am hoping some kindly soul might access it and reveal the detail that the notice contains.
I'd be every so grateful, really, I would.
Thanks in abundance in anticipation.
Best regards
Stuart Mcdonald, Western Australia.
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The only additional info was that the marriage was on 24 Oct at Wisbech
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The only additional info was that the marriage was on 24 Oct at Wisbech
Woo hoo Kay! You're a star! Thank you so very much, it has filled in one small gap, and that is a wondrous thing in my little world. I really appreciate your time and generosity.
Every best wish,
Stuart
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FreeBMD has the entry (but not the detail!)
December qtr 1888
Wisbech Registration District vol 3b, page 1289
Culy, David
Walker, Mary
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FreeBMD has the entry (but not the detail!)
And the devil is in the detail! Thanks for the look-up, I have been able to access the date thanks to the generosity of browsers on RootsChat.
All the best,
Stuart
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Have you looked on the Family Search (free) site? This gives census records as well as BMD records and there seem to have been several David Culys around Wisbech, possibly fathers and sons. I think your David could have married Mary (Ann) Walker 1888, who was much younger than him, but possibly a widow, as some of the children named in the 1891 census were born before the 1888 marriage.
In the 1881 census David is a widowed butcher boarding with Stoker family, who coincidentally have a 2 year old daughter called Mary Ann.
In the 1891 census Mary Culy is 37 and David is a 60 year old butcher. living in Wisbech with children Arthur 7, Ethel 5, Julia 2 and David 1.
The name David seems to have been passed down over generations in this family, as in the 1911 census David junior is now 21 and is a wood sawyer, son of the widowed Mary Ann, shopkeeper.
I can't find a first marriage for David senior, but there's nothing from the start of registration in 1837.
I hope I'm not leading you astray with these remarks, but you can take a look at the Family Search and FreeBMD sites - "free" is the word for both of these!
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This is a useful reminder to always try different search terms for newspaper items.
The item text is: (my transcription):
At Wisbech, Oct, 24, David Culy to Mary Walker, both of Wisbech.
At BNA the OCR text for the item is:
At Wlabook Oct. 24, amid Cody to Mary Walker, both et Wistaria.
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This is a useful reminder to always try different search terms for newspaper items.
The item text is: (my transcription):
At Wisbech, Oct, 24, David Culy to Mary Walker, both of Wisbech.
At BNA the OCR text for the item is:
At Wlabook Oct. 24, amid Cody to Mary Walker, both et Wistaria.
My maternal grandfather was born in Wisbech.
"Ref the transcription! Not funny but :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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AB - the vagaries of OCR.
You have transcribed perfectly. The OCR misread is understandable given the state of the original.
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AB - the vagaries of OCR.
The OCR misread is understandable given the state of the original.
Agreed: it is very smudged, for want of a better word. Too much ink. But it makes me wonder how many interesting articles are out there that may never be found by this route (speaking as a compulsive BNA user).
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The scale of OCR data capture is impossible to imagine - it has made so much available on line. The quality of what is being read is the bottom line but I still remain surprised on occasions how the machine managed to "read" an item
Agreed - so much out there may never be found
Fellow BNA user!
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The BNA gives a place to correct the OCR text but the layout is cramped so I have rarely used it, just occasionally entered a few key names. Generally, I prefer FindMyPast for searching, but it does not seem to have an equivalent edit function, although they are using the same data.
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Davids 1st Marriage to Julie LENTON 11 Feb 1851 is on FreeREG
Fathers David a Butcher and John a Butcher
Note; Banns. David Culy late of Wisbech. John Lenton formerly of Bourn LIN.
I had to laugh at this private tree;
Name
David Culy Birth Abt 1680
Death 4 Dec 1836
There is no age on 1836 burial so dont know how people had him born 1774 to Caleb/Elizabeth.
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I always think that people who sit gormlessly playing trite games on their daily commute would find it much more rewarding transcribing documents. Such cloud-sourced wisdom would be better than OCR.
Zaph
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The family were Baptist.
Mr. David Culy. Butcher in the Market Place Wisbech St Peter's in the Isle of Ely died December 4th 1836.
Ref: image on ancestry
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Possible death for Julia Culy 1878 age 45 reg. Wisbech
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FindMyPast English Marriages
1820, 1st August, Wisbeach [sic]
David Culy m Hannah Walkerley
FindMyPast from CAMBRIDGESHIRE: Wisbech, St Peters, Upper Hill Street, late Ship Lane (Baptist): Births, Deaths & Burials:
Juliana daughter of David and Hannah Culy
was born Sep. 22, 1825, in Wisbech St. Peters.
David Culy, son of the above David and
Hannah Culy was born May the 26th 1829
in Wisbech St Peter's.
This entry was made from a certificate de-
livered to me by the parents, Oct. 12th, 1830
By me Robt. Reynoldson.
William Culy, son of David and Han-
nah Culy, butcher Market Place Wisbech
St Peter's, was born Decr. 24th 1833
Matilda Culy daughter of the above
David and Hannah Culy was born
Augt. 1836 at Wisbech St Peter's —
Robt. Reynoldson, Pastor
1836 burial of David Culy as noted in reply #14
28 November 1840: Cambridge Chronicle and Journal
WISBECH
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On the same day a little boy, son of Mrs. Culy butcher of the Market-hill, met with a serious accident. He was standing in a cart in the High-street, when a waggon came in contact with it, and the force of the concussion threw the boy out, and the wheel of the cart passed over his neck. We understand the boy was a good deal hurt.
1841 census
Wisbech St Peter
Market Place
Hannah Culy, 40, Butcher, Y
Eliza Do., 15, Y
Julia Do. 15, Y
David, Do., 12, Y
Matilda Do., 5, Y
William Do., 7, Y
26 July 1843: Cambridge General Advertiser
WISBECH
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On Saturday last, about 1 o'clock in the afternoon, some expert rogue stole a leg of mutton from the shop of Mrs. Culy, butcher, which being in the middle of the street adjoining the Market-place, it is surprising how he succeeded in escaping detection, especially as the family were in a room adjoining, and it being market day, there were necessarily a great number of persons in the Market opposite the shop.
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There is another daughter named Matilda who I haven't found a birth or baptism for who was
buried 16 June 1833.
The older daughters from 1841 census Julia and Eliza must be in C of E records see the following:-
Hannah Culy wife of David Culy received into fellowship June 3 1827. Ship Lane Baptist. Wisbech.
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For interest, if you have an Australian National Library card you can access their eresources free from home. These include Gale Primary Sources, which includes British Library Newspapers.
https://www.library.gov.au/research/guides-and-resources/join-library
There are a few other items that mention David CULY, butcher of Wisbech. :D
The marriage of David CULY and Mary WALKER 24 October 1888 at Wisbech was also reported in :
Friday, Nov. 2, 1888
Publication: Stamford Mercury