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Title: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Tuesday 08 April 25 10:24 BST (UK)
Hi

Clarence Alfred Taylor was born in 1889 in Newcastle, NSW and later married Ruby Hyde.  I'm interested in his father - I believe he was English so any bit of information would be very helpful to pinpoint him here in the UK records.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: crisane on Tuesday 08 April 25 10:40 BST (UK)
A tree on ancestry has this information
Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Clarence A Taylor
Birth Date   1889
Birth Place   New South Wales
Registration Year   1889
Registration Place   Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia
Father   George W Taylor
Mother   Bertha Taylor (nee Heap)
Registration Number   29910
Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: crisane on Tuesday 08 April 25 10:45 BST (UK)
George William Taylor
1856–1928
Birth About 1856 • Suffolk, England
Death 7 November 1928 • Stockton, New South Wales, Australia

Mother Bertha Heap

On the newspaper report of Clarence's marriage his father is named as Mr W Taylor so possibly known by his second given name William.

The tree doesn't have any information for Bertha Heap other than she married George William Taylor  1881 Newcastle NSW no source given.
The newspaper report says Bertha Hyde is  the third daughter of Mr and Mrs W Hyde.
Also Clarence is reported as being late of the AIF
Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 08 April 25 10:48 BST (UK)
If this is the correct Clarence Alfred TAYLOR, his death registration in 1977 has parents' names as George William and Bertha (106718/1977).

findagrave:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193651213/clarence-taylor
Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 08 April 25 10:51 BST (UK)
If the Ancestry tree is correct and George William TAYLOR died in 1828 in Stockton, then it is this death:

William TAYLOR (20868/1928) parents John and Maria.
Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 08 April 25 10:56 BST (UK)
Bertha TAYLOR (wife of William TAYLOR) died in 1939 at Stockton:

death and funeral notices:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/167366262

death registration:
(12588/1939) at Kurri Kurri, parents - Samuel and Lucy
Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 08 April 25 11:00 BST (UK)

Also Clarence is reported as being late of the AIF

Digital copies of Clarence's Attestation Papers and military records are available at the National Archives:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=1928558

(father - William TAYLOR of Stockton, with Bertha crossed out)
Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Tuesday 08 April 25 11:09 BST (UK)
Thank you both, a lot to go on now ...  ;D
Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: judb on Wednesday 09 April 25 01:47 BST (UK)
Bertha's birth registration:
Bertha Heap
Registration Date   1863, Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place   Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Vol 8d, p 458

From:
Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists,
Bertha arrived as an infant in 1863, with her parents, Samuel (occ; Lab) and Lucy
Bertha Heap, English
Arrival Age   0, Birth Date   abt 1863
Departure Place   Liverpool
Arrival: 23 Aug. 1863, Melbourne, Australia
Ship   Southern Ocean

Marriage:
1881 Newcastle, New South Wales,
Bertha Heap,    William Taylor
Registration Number   5372

Photo of grave of William and Bertha
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49506890/bertha-taylor

Re William

An on-line tree quotes this information apparently from his death certificate

"Death: 7 November 1928 • 119 Dunbar St Stockton, Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia
Death Cert reads: Age 72.
Warder at Power Magazine, born Suffolk,
Spouse: Bertha Heaps,
Children: - Georgina 46, William J 43, Arthur G 41, Clarence A 39, none deceased,
49 years in NSW
Informant: Arthur G Taylor, son
"

Judith



Title: Re: Father of Clarence Alfred Taylor
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Wednesday 09 April 25 13:24 BST (UK)
Great!  Thank you - I've all that I need now.  All help gratefully received  ;D