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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Helina on Tuesday 08 April 25 08:43 BST (UK)
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I need help with this family again.
Parents John Tarrant born 1858 and Eliza Sarah Kimberley born 1856, they married in 1881, living in Southwick.
According to the 1911 census they had 10 children, 4 had died.
I have found the 6 children but not the 10
Children
Mary Ann Louisa 1882-1927
Rosa May 1884-1935
John Thomas 1886-1917
Eliza b 1889
William b 1892
James b 1893
Any help would be appreciated
helina
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According to the 1911 census they had 10 children, 4 had died.
It says 4 are still living and 6 have died :-\
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Have you checked the GRO birth/death registrations to see if you can find the missing ones?
Start from the date of the marriage and head up to 1911.
3 different spellings for MMN on the children you have listed
Kimblery
Kimberly
Kimberley
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Where are they in 1891 and 1901.
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Children as per your post
Mary Ann Louisa 1882-1927
Rosa May 1884-1935
John Thomas 1886-1917
Eliza b 1889 - Died March qtr 1892
William b 1892 - Died same qtr
James b 1893 - ????
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I think the correct 1891 is transcribed as Marion 3 but should be 8 and refer to Mary Ann.
Eliza is on that age 2.
Address 8 Adam’s Place Southwark
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Thank you Milliepede. I was looking for Rosa, I should have tried Roser ::). Not helped as it has been transcribed as Farrant on FindMyPast.
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1901 is under Farrant on mine with Marion 18 Rose M 16 John 10 James 7
Hope that is the right/same family as John should be older.
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Although not at all relevant to your query about the children, I thought that you might be interested in some information about their address in 1911.
Firstly, here is a view of the area on a 1911 large scale OS map:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/231272364#zoom=4.8&lat=7209&lon=9495&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/231272364#zoom=4.8&lat=7209&lon=9495&layers=BT)
I can't pinpoint it exactly, but no. 28 was on the stretch where the "Street" of Avonmouth Street is, and was on the south-west side of the street. I know this because in the 1910 evaluation records (Llloyd George Domesday) no. 28 is bundled into a
Block of prop. bounded by Avonmouth St., Uxbridge St.,Dorset St., & Tarn St. (including site of Linwood Place)
This whole block was owned by the Licensed Victuallers' Asylum, which you can read about here:
https://londonhistorians.wordpress.com/2022/01/04/the-licensed-victuallers-asylum/ (https://londonhistorians.wordpress.com/2022/01/04/the-licensed-victuallers-asylum/)
https://londonhistorians.wordpress.com/2024/01/10/the-licensed-victuallers-asylum-part-2/ (https://londonhistorians.wordpress.com/2024/01/10/the-licensed-victuallers-asylum-part-2/)
Additional details from the record for no. 28 are:
Private house, occupier E Joyner [matches the 1911 census]
rent: 10s per week.
rates and repairs: W H King [presumably of the Licensed Victuallers' Asylum organisation]
description:
an old brick and tile cottage containing 4 rooms & washhouse
frontage
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As Mary Ann, Rosa, John T & James are all around in 1901 perhaps the 6 deceased did not have their births registered. Maybe you need to be looking at deaths for infants where there is no apparent birth registration
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Sorry I have not replied earlier, I have been out all morning.
Yes, I have tried different spelling surnames etc, also different areas registered, St Saviours, Camberwell and Southwark, found the birth reg at Saint Saviours.
I will have a look at the deaths
Thank you for your help.
helina
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I have not found any deaths that would fit in apart from Eliza and William
helina
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Certainly not obvious are they.
Had either of the parents been married before and included previous children in the total by mistake?
Not unheard of for people to make mistakes with the numbers in 1911.
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Thanks Millie