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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Resources & Offers => Topic started by: heath on Sunday 06 April 25 22:49 BST (UK)
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Could some one please recorded what is on the headstone - Mary A white.
Plot info MGC-RC-Comp-P-No-192. :) found on find a Grave. sorry I am unable to attach the info as the file is to big for your site.
heath
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Hi. On the FAG site if you hit the "photo", then "view original" you can then enlarge the original photo and read the very large headstone. the inscriptions seem to be about the Bane family
i have tried to attach, hope it works
cass
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thank you :)
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How interesting there is no mention of Mary A white death 1863 age 2
heath
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Hi Heath,
I have dug out my old cd.
"Melbourne General Cemetery. Index and transcriptions of Monumental Inscriptions to 1989"
A search of the surname White plus Mary plus 1863 yield no complete match.
Reminder- this does not mean she isn't interred there.
I can only guess at some confusions at the Find a Grave website.
Sue
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Is this the child's birth?
WHITE Mary Ann
Mother Brodget (Bridget?) MCINERNEY
Father John
At C'WOOD
12017/1861
There is a matching death in 1863.
Sue
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yes, any date of birth. The family buried after Mary are of no relation.
heath
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Hi
Noting the registration number of Mary's birth as 12017/1861.
The birth registration immediately before it is 12016/1861
Mc CCAUL Isabella Alston
Father Gilbert John
At ST KILDA
1861
12016/1861
A birth notice placed in The Age newspaper 19th July 1861 for Isabella
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154899441?searchTerm=%22mccaul%20%22
So, at a guess, the birth was July 1861
Sue
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yes, any date of birth. The family buried after Mary are of no relation.
heath
I'm not sure what you mean here.
Catherine Agnes BANE did not die after Mary WHITE.
She died before. Reg 651/1861
Sue
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thank you for the birth month. This was the first child born after they arrived.
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I am sorry but i cannot understand what you mean, who arrived when and from where.
it would be really good if you could give a little bit more information so we can understand the story of your search. all I hope is that the photo of the headstone helped
regards
Cass
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This was the first child born after they arrived.
Mary Ann's birth certificate would confirm that.
The Victorian marriage,
MCINERNEY Bridget
WHITE, John
1860
2507/1860
Sue
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yes, you have the parents of Mary Ann. As there is no Mary Ann white on the headstone and the Bane's seam to be all children, and we have from Find a grave this is the place of Mary Ann, I quest
all my answers have been answered. thank you al for your help.
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The family buried after Mary are of no relation.
heath
Well digging a little deeper, I think there is a chance they are related.
Thomas BANE, the father of the many deceased children memorialised on the headstone at Melbourne General Cemetery died in 1891.
He had remarried after the death of his first wife.
His death is here.
BANE Thos
Mother Margt MCINERTY
Father Jos
Aged 64
1891
3028/1891
To my way of thinking, his mother's maiden name, here as MCINERTY, is very similar to the maiden name of Bridget nee (McINERNEY) WHITE, mother of deceased child Mary Ann WHITE.
One possiblity is that Bridget's father and Thomas's mother were siblings.
I wonder if Mary Ann WHITE was in fact interred at the same location as the BANE children, but does not appear on the Memorial stone.
Just speculations.
Someone on the Irish board may help with some research there if you make a request.
Sue
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Thank you for that it needs to be looked in to. I know the McInerney line and Bridget's father is Cornelius. Melbourne Cemetery Parkville state that is were Mary Ann in buried. Cornelius dies in Ireland Clare. So Cornelius and Margaret could be siblings. If Cornelius was born 1798 then I could be looking for Margert's birth circa 1798 .
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Yes,
There is a good chance that is the connection.
when Thomas BANE died , he was a wealthy man and he left his estate to his second wife Ann and his children.
His will is digitiised
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/wills-and-probates
The MI was dedicated to his own children, but there is a possibility that he may have "helped " the WHITES with their sad loss, by offering a burial place for the child.
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looking through the will very quickly the name O'Shea could be the clue. Bridget's mother was Hannah O'Shea. I see that Thomas dies 6 Jan 1821. Bridget was born in 1833. I would be going back a long way to find any thing out in the 1800 which is very hard in Ireland. I will have a go at looking for Laurance O'shea.
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Thomas BANE’s first wife, Catherine Agnes, was nee REED. Her father recorded on her death registration indexing was Thomas REED. ( 651 / 1861).
Laurence O’SHEA's wife, Mary was nee REED on the birth Victorian indexations of 2 children. Her father was recorded on her death registration indexing was Thomas REID. ( 8016 / 1897)
Laurence O’Shea was a publican of Brighton and wealthy. He died in Nov 1891.
The Death Notice of Mary OSHEA ,- Trove Newspapers- states she was born in Clare (Ire) and she and Laurence came to Vic in 1856. Their home in Aisling St. Brighton was named Fedamore.
This biography would have been supplied by family and may or may not be factually correct.
Sue
Modify.
Having just viewed the marriage certificate of Laurence O'SHEA and Mary REED available on an online ancestry tree, there is clearly wrong information in the death notice.
Their marriage was in Melbourne at St James Catholic Church in 1865.
Thomas BANE was a witness.
Sue
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thank you the date of the marriage for Laurance and Mary has been put back to front.
The only Mary reed I am getting in County Clare birth is 1855. I am not finding a birth for Laurance in county Clare. Will look in irish genealogy but I don't expect to find him there. I don't have much faith in family search but will try.
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thank you the date of the marriage for Laurance and Mary has been put back to front.
No it hasn't.
Please note correct spelling for his name Laurence
From the marriage certificate of Laurence O'SHEA and Mary REED.
Date April 18, 1865. Reg 1717.
Laurence was native of County Limerick
His mother was Mary Fitzgerald. His father was Thomas O'Shea.
Mary was from County Clare
Her mother was Catherine Stoddard.
Her Father was Thomas Reed
Sue
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thank you they are no relation to the family's I am looking at.
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thank you they are no relation to the family's I am looking at.
Hi.
Well to be honest, I am not sure which of these many families mentioned in the thread is your particular target of research.
But the information in this thread (and the others you have had) provided by documentation and specific research makes it clear that the families in Victoria , BANE, REED, O'SHEA, McINERNEY ( Bridget, and her brothers John and Peter) are definitely inter-related.
I hope your ongoing research brings you answers.
Sue
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You are right about Bridget John and Peter and now I have found Thomas they have all come out around the same time. So I will keep looking for the connection.