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Title: GRO help
Post by: izonme on Sunday 06 April 25 19:23 BST (UK)
Hi - I'm trying to research on the GRO for adoption records to see if my grandfather is possibly adopted - but I am kind of confused by the GRO.

I type in all of the information that is required to submit, but when it goes onto the confirmation screen, does it mean the adoption certificate exists and i'm paying to get the adoption certificate, or am I paying to see if it exists? I am really confused by this - because I don't want to pay that much if the certificate doesn't actually exist.

Could anyone help explain? Thank you
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Sunday 06 April 25 19:53 BST (UK)
Have you found his birth entry?
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: Comberton on Sunday 06 April 25 19:57 BST (UK)
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/images/CG6_2.pdf
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Monday 07 April 25 15:39 BST (UK)
 The adoption certificate only displays post adoption information (A certificate in the post adoption name not the name at birth). The birth cert only displays pre adoption information (not the adoptive name), though 'adopted' may be entered as an annotation in column 10.

To order the birth certificate the name at birth has to be known.

Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 07 April 25 15:47 BST (UK)
The GRO is a birth registration index not an adoption record index.

What are you typing in?  If the information is accepted and there is a registration then you will get a certificate in whatever name you have typed in.

Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: izonme on Monday 07 April 25 16:27 BST (UK)
I found my grandfathers current name on the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007, does that mean he is not adopted?
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 April 25 16:29 BST (UK)
Is it in the right qtr and place for his birth or is it a later entry.
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: Biggles50 on Monday 07 April 25 16:32 BST (UK)
Recently I wanted to order my Grandmothers Death Certificate and GRO did not give her references when I searched so I used the option of them searching.

They refunded my payment.

Used FreeBMD to find the references and entered them in the GRO site, success certificate received.
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 April 25 16:36 BST (UK)
Does this relate to your other post  :-\
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=889666.0
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: coombs on Tuesday 08 April 25 14:04 BST (UK)
OP, I have had a good gander at your related thread about your bio grandfather and find it interesting. I take it this new thread is about the same person?
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: izonme on Tuesday 08 April 25 14:23 BST (UK)
Yes it is related to the same person - I just want to be 100% sure that my grandfather who is on my dads birth certificate is not adopted - I have asked my dads assumed full-blood brother if he could do a DNA test but for now I was wondering if it was possible to just see if there was any chance to do a search or claim an adoptive certificate on the GRO, if not, I did hear that it's possible that the British Library (I think) has adoption Index that  I could visit
Title: Re: GRO help
Post by: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 08 April 25 14:53 BST (UK)
Hi - I'm trying to research on the GRO for adoption records to see if my grandfather is possibly adopted - but I am kind of confused by the GRO.

I type in all of the information that is required to submit, but when it goes onto the confirmation screen, does it mean the adoption certificate exists and i'm paying to get the adoption certificate, or am I paying to see if it exists? I am really confused by this - because I don't want to pay that much if the certificate doesn't actually exist.

Could anyone help explain? Thank you

The following agrees with a previous reply ...

Gov.uk GRO AI (Art. Intell.), says:-

No Searchable Index:
There isn't a public, searchable online index of adoption records
.

End of A.I., reference.
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Standard Full Birth and Other Certificates

Regarding the online ordering of a standard Full Birth Certificate, Death or Marriage, from GRO online, some of us get our details from Free BMD Image of the actual old Public GRO Index and insert the details manually, because the Birth or Death entry may be missing or obscure (spelt wrong) on GRO gov.uk online search index.

On Free BMD Index Image, but Not on GRO Index
I wanted a Birth Certificate 2-3 weeks ago, showing on the Free BMD Index, but nothing on GRO online, so raised it as a Missing Entry on the GRO Online Index with the GRO.

Missing entry now rectified, showing on GRO Index Online and been ordered as a £3.00  download.

GRO Ask Twice when Ordering
Regarding the GRO Index and Ordering page, everyone is asked twice, before making payment that they have inserted correct Name, District, Volume and Page Number and details, as I presume the GRO won't refund you (or deduct a search fee), if the person ordering has inserted something wrong and the GRO can't find it.