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Title: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: tonepad on Thursday 03 April 25 06:35 BST (UK)
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/1939-register

I have already found one entry which was previously redacted.


Tony
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Monday 05 May 25 14:41 BST (UK)
Why are two brothers not found? Are they already serving overseas? Their names are: Sidney James Hawker dob 1908 and Alfred Frank Hawker dob 1900.
Thank you.
Judy Hawker
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Gadget on Monday 05 May 25 16:08 BST (UK)


There is a Sydney J, 1906 in Chard. If that's any good. 

Also in Chard,  an Alfred V , b. 1899.

It might be worth doing a variants  search

Edit - (As it's free to search, I am assuming that I can give you these details)
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Monday 05 May 25 17:00 BST (UK)
Thank you Gadget. You always came to my aid in the past.
Unfortunately this is not the one. I just wondered if he had enlisted somewhere other than Birmingham. He was eventually in a tank regiment.
Judy
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Tickettyboo on Monday 05 May 25 17:18 BST (UK)
Apologies, Ttotal fail at reading the question properly,

deletd
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Monday 05 May 25 22:15 BST (UK)
Not to worry as that can easily happen. I hadn't realised that members of the forces were not included.
Judy
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Gadget on Monday 05 May 25 23:06 BST (UK)
Have you checked to see if their service records are online or maybe put up an inquiry on the Forces board.
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Tuesday 06 May 25 11:12 BST (UK)
I hadn't realised that military records could be accessed on-line. I'll spend some time on a further search. Thank you once again.
Judy
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 06 May 25 12:25 BST (UK)
Rather worried about giving my financial details, as I'm not aiming to stay on FindMyPast and there's only a short free trial time (and I'm a bit forgetful).
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 06 May 25 12:36 BST (UK)
Why not  set a reminder on your pc/ tablet/phone to alert you to cancel a couple of days prior to the free trial ending.
Boo
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Chris Doran on Tuesday 06 May 25 13:31 BST (UK)
Rather worried about giving my financial details, as I'm not aiming to stay on FindMyPast and there's only a short free trial time (and I'm a bit forgetful).
I don't think you have to give any financial details to create an account to use this free offer on the 1939 Register only. You do NOT have to click on (Start free trial) at the top right of the page which is for the whole site, and always available.

By the way, previous FindMyPast freebies have closed at 10am on the stated end day, not 1 minute to midnight as with other sites. This may have changed, but don't rely on having all day on 8th.
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Tuesday 06 May 25 13:59 BST (UK)
I am trying to attach a photo of Sidney James Hawker to see if it helps.
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Tuesday 06 May 25 14:00 BST (UK)
Also one of Alfred Frank Hawker who may have been in the RFC at the end of WW1.
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 06 May 25 14:35 BST (UK)
Read this one correctly :-)
There is an Airman's service record for Alfred Frank HAWKER on FindMyPast he attested in 1918 and contains info about his wife and children which may help you to identify if its the right man.
A note says he enlisted in Class E Reserve in 1938

I think your best bet is to get the record  and ask questions on the WW2 forum as I don't know if he would have served in WW2 or not - though his civil occupation would likely have been of use to the RAF
Boo
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 06 May 25 14:41 BST (UK)
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There is an Airman's service record for Alfred Frank HAWKER on FindMyPast he attested in 1918 and contains info about his wife and children which may help you to identify if its the right man.

Slap my wrists - I saw that in the listing but decided he was maybe too old for early recruitment.

 :-[
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 06 May 25 15:17 BST (UK)
There was a mention of an Alfred Frank Hawker from Birmingham in the Devon newspapers in 1937
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-north-devon-journal-herald-afhawker/171816941/

I looked his address up in the Warwickshire Electoral registers for 1937 and that name is listed - with a Doris Hawker - which is the name on the RAF service record for the airman's wife.

Just posting in case this service record pans out when you get it. I always like little snippets - especially when they have been naughty!

Boo
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Tuesday 06 May 25 18:27 BST (UK)
Oooooh that's intriguing! It's the correct person too. Now unfortunately I no longer have a sub to FindMyPast. He was a lovely and kind uncle to my husband.
Judy
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: tonepad on Wednesday 07 May 25 06:46 BST (UK)
The photo of Alfred Frank Hawker has a RAF Eagle on the shoulder.
He is wearing a forage cap and pre WW2 tunic.
The photo is dated between 1936 and 1940.
The RAF forage cap was introduced in 1936.
RAF WW2 battledress was introduced in 1940.


Tony
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Wednesday 07 May 25 07:44 BST (UK)
Thank you Tony. So that's why he doesn't appear on the 1939 Register.
Judy
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: tonepad on Thursday 08 May 25 05:41 BST (UK)
The cap badge for Sidney James Hawker could be the RAOC:

https://britishmilitarybadges.co.uk/products/ww2-royal-army-ordnance-corps-raoc-cap-badge-71/


Tony
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: ankerdine on Thursday 08 May 25 09:18 BST (UK)
Thank you once again. I've searched again but can't find him on the 1939 Register so maybe he'd joined up already. We know he was one of the lucky ones who came back from Dunkirk.
Judy
Title: Re: 1939 Register free until 8 May to commemorate VE Day
Post by: Gillg on Thursday 08 May 25 11:52 BST (UK)
Rather worried about giving my financial details, as I'm not aiming to stay on FindMyPast and there's only a short free trial time (and I'm a bit forgetful).
I don't think you have to give any financial details to create an account to use this free offer on the 1939 Register only. You do NOT have to click on (Start free trial) at the top right of the page which is for the whole site, and always available.

Thanks for this advice, Chris Doran.  As you suspected, I had been going via the Start Free Trial route, but can now see how to use the free offer and have found the information I was searching for.