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Title: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: dippitybix on Tuesday 01 April 25 21:29 BST (UK)
Hello all,
I'm looking for some help in regards to a death certificate I've found on Family Search regarding a distant cousin of mine, Norman Thomas Maclagan.

I'm looking for help in regards to his occupation, whether he was married and any other interesting information.

A link to the record can be found here

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7TC9-T9T2?lang=en

Many thanks
Title: Re: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 01 April 25 21:49 BST (UK)
Marital status = Geskei = Divorced
Occupation = Gieter = Watering can?!?! ;D
Title: Re: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: dippitybix on Tuesday 01 April 25 21:53 BST (UK)
Quote from: KGarrad on Tuesday 01 April 25 21:49 BST (UK)
Marital status = Geskei = Divorced

Interesting, thank you. I know he married a Sarah McKee in 1917 however she died a year later from Influenza. There is an outgoing passenger record for Norman Thomas on ancestry from 1925 to the Cape occupation shopman.

From his WW1 records he served in the Royal Engineers as a Sapper and was formerly an Iron Moulder.
Title: Re: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: dippitybix on Tuesday 01 April 25 21:53 BST (UK)
Quote from: KGarrad on Tuesday 01 April 25 21:49 BST (UK)
Marital status = Geskei = Divorced
Occupation = Gieter = Watering can?!?! ;D

 ;D I used google lens on that and it made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 01 April 25 22:02 BST (UK)
I spent 16 years in The Netherlands, so I know a little Dutch. Which is similar to Afrikaans.

But  I used Google Translate on the occupation as Gieter was a new one on me!
The usual expression for gardener would be Tuinman?
Title: Re: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: manukarik on Wednesday 02 April 25 11:17 BST (UK)
Founder or Moulder?

See here:
https://www.majstro.com/dictionaries/Afrikaans-English/gieter (https://www.majstro.com/dictionaries/Afrikaans-English/gieter)

Fits with the previous occupation of Iron moulder...
Title: Re: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: dippitybix on Wednesday 02 April 25 11:19 BST (UK)
Quote from: manukarik on Wednesday 02 April 25 11:17 BST (UK)
Founder?

See here:
https://www.majstro.com/dictionaries/Afrikaans-English/gieter (https://www.majstro.com/dictionaries/Afrikaans-English/gieter)

Ahh that makes sense as he was an iron moulder, thank you.
Title: Re: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: pampoen on Wednesday 02 April 25 13:18 BST (UK)
A LoodGieter is Afrikaans for a plumber. I grew up in South Africa and had to learn Afrikaans at school.

Seems he got divorced in 1945.

DEPOT     TAB                                                                   
SOURCE    TPD                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 5/658                                                                 
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 294/1945                                                             
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          ILLIQUID CASE. DIVORCE. KATHLEEN MARY MACLAGAN (BORN CONNELLAN)       
           VERSUS NORMAN THOMAS.                                               
STARTING  19450000                                                             
ENDING    19450000
Title: Re: Help with translation of a death certificate Norman Thomas Maclagan
Post by: dippitybix on Wednesday 02 April 25 19:16 BST (UK)
Quote from: pampoen on Wednesday 02 April 25 13:18 BST (UK)
A LoodGieter is Afrikaans for a plumber. I grew up in South Africa and had to learn Afrikaans at school.

Seems he got divorced in 1945.

DEPOT     TAB                                                                   
SOURCE    TPD                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 5/658                                                                 
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 294/1945                                                             
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          ILLIQUID CASE. DIVORCE. KATHLEEN MARY MACLAGAN (BORN CONNELLAN)       
           VERSUS NORMAN THOMAS.                                               
STARTING  19450000                                                             
ENDING    19450000

Thank you very much for this info. I wonder if he had any children..