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WILFRED BATES died on 28 Aug 1918 after serving with 4th Batt Royal Welsh Fusiliers. Aged 26, he was the husband of Emily Bates, 8 Smithy Street, Westhoughton. His Pension Card includes the name of a child, John Stringfellow, born in 1906, (If these dates are correct it may be that John Stringfellow was a step-son?)
Wilfred Bates is entitled to have his resting place designated as a War Grave but that requires proof of burial.
Does anyone out there know Where Wilfred Bates is buried?
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Doesn't help but - Wilfred Bates marriage registered 1912 Wigan - Emily Stringfellow -
There were a few Wigan births for John Stringfellow
Sandra
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Emily Bates married John William Yates ,Bolton reg March 1921,
John Stringfellow (father dead)
lives with them , 8 Smithy St West Houghton
so she hasn't moved after her husbands death
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Thank you, both. According to Wilfred Bates' Pension Card, John Stringfellow was born on 6 Dec 1906. Wilfred married Emily Stringfellow in 1912 - so presumably John was the child of a previous marriage/ relationship.
Wilfred most likely buried in or around Westhoughton. Any other clues still very welcome,
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CWWGC
Wilfred Bates,Died 28th August 1918
aged 26 years,
Brookwood Memorial,
husband of Emily Bates of Westhoughton,
Royal Welsh fusiliers
service number 200796,
Lancashire BMD, Wilfred Bates aged 26, death registered Horwich Bolton, 1918,
perhaps his death certificate will help you find where hes buried in Lancashire
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John Stringfellow birth date 12th September 1906 is unmarried and still with his now widowed again mother Emily Yates in Worsley Lancashire
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Possible birth registration of John?
EDWARDS, JOHN
Mother's Maiden Surname —
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 88
Lancashire BMD sub-district Hindley (mother Edwards)
Dec qtr 1906 Wigan 8c 196
James Stringfellow married Emily Edwards
Lancs BMD says Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended
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From Lancashire OPC
Baptism, 3 February 1907 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire
John Stringfellow
[Child] of James Stringfellow & Emily
Born 12 Sep 1906
Abode 28 Turner St.
Occupation Labourer
Baptised by J.Hirst, Off.Min.
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Death of a James Stringfellow, 40, March qtr 1910 Wigan.
Find a grave has an entry in Hindley Cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/210897578/james-stringfellow
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Hope I'm not leading you down a blind alley. John Stringfellow is relevant only inasmuch as he appeared on Wilfred's Pension Card. My end objective is to find proof of where Wilfred Bates is buried.
I don't know the Bolton area but Horwich and Westhoughton appear to neighbouring districts to the west side of the town,
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oh no your not leading me away, in the absence of a quick reply and correct burial for Wilfred just looking around for clues, I have looked in a couple of cemeteries and various church resources and found no details,
I noticed his other next of kin was his mother Mary, who was living in Bolton Workhouse, did you find any details on her they could be buried in the same plot
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Another blind alley!
James Stringfellow buried Hindley Cemetery, 19 March 1910, is in grave C 6-280, with a load of Edwards
https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/hindleycemeterydetail.php?page=1&surname=stringfellow&sort=0&forename=&sf=0&id=8608
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are there two records for Wilfred Bates
Wilfred Bates 200796, Welsh fusiliers, wife Emily of West Houghton,discharged June 1918,
Wilfred Bates 15934 also wife Emily West Houghton, discharged not fit in 1914 , a collier born All Saints Hindley,
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Strange coincidence - two men called Wilfred Bates, two wives called Emily, both in West Houghton.
I was only aware of Wilfred Bates 200796. The mention of Hindley does raise the question as to whether we should be looking around Wigan rather than/as well as Bolton.
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Wilfred most likely buried in or around Westhoughton.
I assume you've already checked Westhoughton cemetery itself - there's no record of him there.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJX-MLG5?cat=737396&i=12&lang=en
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Have you any family details for him, he states his mother resides in Bolton workhouse in 1914, and she was called Mary, I looked at a burial in Heaton Mary Ann Bates a widow died at the infirmary , she is widowed aged 47 years, non conformist, resided at 45 Cloisters St, body brought from Little Bolton, place of burial, 3 ,,W,97, NUMBER OF GRANT 10932
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Thanks, Radcliff, I will follow up on that one tomorrow.