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Title: Marriage
Post by: heddwch on Friday 28 March 25 15:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Please can you help


Have a marriage for Annie Mary Williams born 17th May 1899  LLanelli and William Barrett  at
Oct.Dec Qtr  1908  at Llanelli

I am trying to search for Annie Mary Williams parents.

Many thanks

Heddwch


Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 28 March 25 15:46 GMT (UK)
Are you absolutely sure of those dates?  If they are correct then she married at the age of 9  :o
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 28 March 25 16:06 GMT (UK)
What was her fathers name when she married?

The marriage date is correct - 1908
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: heddwch on Friday 28 March 25 18:01 GMT (UK)
Am so sorry its  1889  her birth.  I dont know  her parents name I  assume her fathers name  is  Williams

Heddwch
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 28 March 25 18:06 GMT (UK)
You need the marriage cert to find her fathers name.

Have you checked for a birth?  Have you checked the 1891 for her although with a common surname like Williams there could be others

Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: heddwch on Friday 28 March 25 18:12 GMT (UK)
Her death

Deaths Dec 1983   (>99%)
KNIGHT    ANNIE MARY    17MY1889    PONTYPRIDD    27   1529

Her  grandaughter also gave  me this birthday

Heddwch
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 28 March 25 18:13 GMT (UK)
Yes start with the marriage certificate and follow the clues on that.

Where are the Barrett couple in 1911?
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 28 March 25 18:14 GMT (UK)
Annie Mary Knight?  What happened to Mr Barrett?
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 28 March 25 18:14 GMT (UK)
If she was b May 1899 what about the June qtr birth on freebmd  in the Llanelly RD
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 28 March 25 18:15 GMT (UK)
1889 I think
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: heddwch on Friday 28 March 25 18:18 GMT (UK)
She marrried twice   thanks all for helping
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 28 March 25 18:19 GMT (UK)
Oops - yes🤣

If she is the 1946 marriage to John Knight in Glamorgan she was about 57 at that time

Check the 1889 birth I mentioned then buy either the 1908 or 1946 marriage cert for her fathers name
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 28 March 25 18:19 GMT (UK)
You have a choice of marriage certificates then.  First one probably most useful as closest to her birth.
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: softly softly on Friday 28 March 25 19:14 GMT (UK)
Does this check out. Annie Barrett appears in 1921 with this man listed below I believe her brother, both born Loughor

WILLIAMS, ANNIE  MARY     mmn FRANCIS 
GRO Reference: 1889  J Quarter in LLANELLY  Volume 11A  Page 875

WILLIAMS, OLIVER  STEPHEN     FRANCIS 
GRO Reference: 1901  M Quarter in LLANELLY  Volume 11A  Page 1103

1901 ref

Piece   5086
Folio   67
Page number   45

The 2 births above appear with parents Daniel & Sarah A

Marriages Dec 1887   
Francis    Sarah Ann        Llanelly    11a   1323   
Williams    Daniel        Llanelly    11a   1323    

SS

added-I cannot find the extra 3 Barrett daughters birth's who appear with family in 1921 census. Eldest daughter's birth easily found.
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: softly softly on Friday 28 March 25 19:21 GMT (UK)
1891
Piece   4491
Folio   64
Page number   44

Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship

Daniel Williams   23   Head
Sarah A Williams 23 Wife
Anne M Williams 2 Daughter

SS
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: softly softly on Friday 28 March 25 19:52 GMT (UK)
Interesting 1911 census.

1911
William John   Williams   Head   Married   Male   24   1887   Coal miner hewer   Dowlais Glam
Annie Mary   Williams   Wife   Married   Female   22   1889   -   Lougher Glam
Harriet Ann   Williams   Daughter   Single   Female   1   1910   -   Gorseinon Glam
Richard John   Barrett   Cousin   Single   Male   21   1890   Coal miner hewer   Treharris Glam
May   John   Cousin   Single   Female   20   1891   -   Gliford Goel Glam
Daniel Thomas   Williams   Boarder   Single   Male   20   1891   Steel worker   Lougher Glam

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WILLIAMS, DANIEL  THOMAS     mmnFRANCIS 
GRO Reference: 1892  S Quarter in LLANELLY  Volume 11A  Page 947

With regard to Harriet see her same place of birth as in 1921 census

SS
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: softly softly on Friday 28 March 25 20:13 GMT (UK)
Believe this is her birth.

SS
Title: Re: Marriage
Post by: heddwch on Saturday 29 March 25 13:00 GMT (UK)


A  huge thank you  for all your replys  will  pass this information  on to the  friend I am helping

Diolch yn fawr

Heddwch