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Title: John Turner
Post by: wolfman99 on Wednesday 26 March 25 05:25 GMT (UK)

Hi,
I'm stuck on John Turner, a shoemaker who died in Grong Grong NSW in 1876. His death certificate and marriage certificate provide the following information:
Born: London 1929
Father: John Turner whose occupation was: Sawyer
Mother: Mary Eeke
Interestingly, he married Ester Herbert, whose line I have followed to Catherine Blount who was sister to Elizabeth (Bessie) Blount - King Henry VIII's lover and mother to his only acknowledged illegitimate child.
Help.
Jim

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: HistoricalGenealogy on Wednesday 26 March 25 06:11 GMT (UK)

There is a marriage record which may be John's parents:
Mary Eke & John Turner (1821, East Dereham) (http://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NN2J-5QF?lang=en&__cpo=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZmFtaWx5c2VhcmNoLm9yZw)

Edit:
Familysearch Family Tree for them:
Here (http://familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/MYJD-T67?__cpo=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZmFtaWx5c2VhcmNoLm9yZw)

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 26 March 25 06:22 GMT (UK)

When did your John arrive in Australia?  Ie when is he last on a census in England?  Did he come alone or with other family?
Can you please write out the information on the marriage & death certs exactly as it is. No interpretations. Just as it is.


Can see the Eke/Turner marriage posted. Both were widowed. So Mary Eke not born Eke.

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 26 March 25 07:10 GMT (UK)

Christopher Turner son of John Turner - Sawyer and Mary Eke bap 11 June 1821 East Dereham

Born 31 March 1821 (before marriage) as listed in the register.

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 26 March 25 07:29 GMT (UK)

Here is the Obituary entry for a son, Arthur, born 1871. Died 1900

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/99254786?searchTerm=%22arthur%20turner%20%22~2

Sue

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 26 March 25 08:59 GMT (UK)

Its interesting as bapts East Dereham, Mother MARY Eke;

ELIZABETH 29 Jan 1811, birth 27 Jan 1811. Reputed Father John ANDREWS; Mother a widow
JANE 14 Mar 1819, birth 3 Dec 1818
MARY ANNE 23 Dec 1820, birth 4 Dec 1820

Also a burial DAVID Eke 11 Dec 1808 age 23, A Married Man. Stated As David EKE Junr.

David EKE married Mary BLADE  20 Oct 1806, bachelor/spinster

They had children;
JAMES bapt 10 Mar 1807
MARY ANN bapt 15 Jul 1808 (cant see burial for her)

So just a possible for Mary Turner/Eke

Trish :)

EDIT looks possible as a Mary BLADE was bapt 31 Mar 1785 to CHRISTOPHER/JANE

So would make her 44 if she had a Son John c 1829

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: wolfman99 on Sunday 27 April 25 23:41 BST (UK)

Hi all

Thank you so much for clarifying the Mary Eke situation. Any chance of something on John Turner who was recorded as a widower when he married Mary Eke.

Jim

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 28 April 25 00:46 BST (UK)

Quote from: wolfman99 on Sunday 27 April 25 23:41 BST (UK)

Any chance of something on John Turner who was recorded as a widower when he married Mary Eke.

There is this possibility ….

MARRIAGE 2 Oct 1800 Barnham Broom
John Turner single man of Barnham Broom
Sarah Thurlow single woman of Northwold


Children:-
Thomas Thurlow Turner 1802
Joanna 1806


BURIAL 6 June 1806 Barnham Broom
Sarah Ann, age 40, wife of John Turner

(Barnham Broom is 8 miles from Dereham)

Possible baptism
6 Nov 1775 Barnham Broom
John Turner - Son of John and Anna Turner

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 28 April 25 02:34 BST (UK)

Duplicate thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877135.0

Title: Re: John Turner
Post by: wolfman99 on Monday 28 April 25 10:51 BST (UK)

Wow, that is fantastic. thanks for your help.

Jim