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Title: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: colleys on Monday 24 March 25 10:07 GMT (UK)
Looking for help where I have hit a brick wall with John Colley in Shropshire.

Information I have is:

John Colley
B: Abt. 1811 Shropshire (based on 1841 census)
D: April 1850 Madeley, Shropshire

Married Anne Bowyer (B: Abt. 1815): 31 March 1834, Astley Abbots, Shropshire
Children
Mary Ann Colley - B: 1834
Benjamin Colley - B: 1837
Eliza Colley - B: 1847
James Colley - B: 1849 D:1899
Jane Colley - B: 1851

The earliest references I can find to John are his marriage to Anne in 1834 (England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973) and in the 1841 census.

On the same page of the 1841 census are (Thomas Colley B: Abt. 1816) and Maria Colley (B: Abt. 1821), possibly related but no way of confirming.

Looking for help to find additional information on John or his parents/relatives.

Thanks in advance for the help
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: gc1 on Monday 24 March 25 10:15 GMT (UK)
Deleted wrong wife name sorry

Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: gc1 on Monday 24 March 25 10:17 GMT (UK)
Deleted as above was wrong Sorry
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: amondg on Monday 24 March 25 10:41 GMT (UK)
Mark Enoch belongs to John and Jane Colley
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: amondg on Monday 24 March 25 10:56 GMT (UK)
Children of John and Ann Colley baptised Broseley Shropshire  - found so far
Mary Ann bap 12 October 1834  - father Waterman
Benjamin bap 4 September 1836- father Waterman
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William bap 15 May 1844  -father Waterman buried 21 May 1844
Eliza bap 7 July 1846
James bap 11 February 1849
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EDITED different family
Sarah Ann bap 30 March 1851  father Blacksmith
Ellen Tranter bap 9 May 1852  father - Blacksmith
Eliza Ann bap 5 March 1854
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 24 March 25 11:28 GMT (UK)
Not much help as Familysearch has only 4 born Shropshire c 1805-1815;

Christenings;
14 Aug 1808 Wellington to THOMAS/ANNE
27 September 1809 Kenley, Mother ANNE
6 November 1814 Stanton upon Hine Heath to JOHN/ELEANOR
19 Nov 1815 Chetwynd,to JOHN/MARY

Thomas COLLEY married Maria BATES 2 May 1839, his Father was RICHARD
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: colleys on Monday 24 March 25 15:12 GMT (UK)
Not much help as Familysearch has only 4 born Shropshire c 1805-1815;

Christenings;
14 Aug 1808 Wellington to THOMAS/ANNE
27 September 1809 Kenley, Mother ANNE
6 November 1814 Stanton upon Hine Heath to JOHN/ELEANOR
19 Nov 1815 Chetwynd,to JOHN/MARY

Thomas COLLEY married Maria BATES 2 May 1839, his Father was RICHARD

Thanks, so looks like Thomas isn't a relation as no corresponding father in the available options
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: amondg on Monday 24 March 25 16:53 GMT (UK)
Get a copy of the marriage certificate, it will tell you who he named as his father.

Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: colleys on Monday 24 March 25 17:03 GMT (UK)
Get a copy of the marriage certificate, it will tell you who he named as his father.

Is that possible for an 1834 marriage? From what I can see it's only 1837 onwards that I can order.
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 24 March 25 17:41 GMT (UK)
His marriage will not name his father. 

The image is online, they were both of the parish.  Witnesses were Richard Bowyer, Jane Jones and Valentine Matthews
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: ciderdrinker on Thursday 10 April 25 13:08 BST (UK)
Hi
Looks like we have 3 siblings ,all on the censuses by the Duke of Wellington pub and working on boats and waterman.
Richard 1806 married Elizabeth Jones 31.7.1835 Broseley wit Mary Billingsley and John Smith the clerk.
John 1811 yours also a waterman
Thomas 1813 s of John Waterman married Maria Bates  2.5.1839 Malinslee wit Hannah Taylor and Edward Blocksridge.

It's really frustrating I can't find a baptism for any of them.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: upthetree on Saturday 12 April 25 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi , I have a verified line back to Hannah Colley born 1775 to George Colley in Ecclesfield who married Stephen Rose in Sheffield (Hannah and Stephen were my Fathers 3xGreat Grandparents) Whats interesting is I have several DNA matches to Dad with Colleys in Shropshire including Thomas Colley, waterman . I'm trying to find out the link and if my George was born in Shropshire
Title: Re: John Colley - Born Abt. 1811 Broseley Shropshire, Married 1834 Astley Abbots
Post by: ciderdrinker on Monday 14 April 25 10:59 BST (UK)
Hi
Not spotting an obvious link.
The family at Wadsley ,Ecclesfield seem to be ;-
George Colley buried 19.8.1777 of Wadsley
He married Sarah Wells 21.6.1767 at Ecclessfield  Sarah d of William  bapt 9.2.1745 married 2nd John Bancroft 4.6.1781  .Child Ann Bancroft 29.7.1781 .Burial 1746-3.8.1817 of Wadsley

Children
William 22.11.1767 A cutler Buried 22.2.1849 .Married Elizabeth Barker 29.3.1789 at Ecclesfield
-George 23.8.1789-23.8.1790 ,Mary 5.4.1795 ,William 31.12.1797 ,Benjamin 1.3.1801,Nancy 23.10.1803 , Samuel 15.10.1809 ,John 20.4.1813,Rosanna 21.12.1817 (only did ones of Wadsley)

Mary 8.3.1772 children  William 67.1.-18.2.1793 and George 19.11.1795-7.11.1797 Married 29.12.1795 Robert Wood by licence.

Hannah 17.4.1775 - (not absolutely sure its the same Hannah having the chiildren)Anne 5.8.1792,Mary 15.1.1803 ,Sarah buried 18.1.1804 and Stephen 1.10.1809

Martha 2.2.1777 married 10.9.1796 Thomas Rhodes widower

You probably have all that and in a lot more detail than me.

Not seeing a Richard father of Thomas the waterman from Broseley.

If we assume that George was a cutler like his son William and go to the Cutler's apprentice records.
https://app.box.com/s/v8n1pp9g6z7kxb2652h4hc7jc0qvub36

George Colley son of William apprenticed to Robert Bradshaw of Crooks Freedom as a cutler ie finished apprenticeship 1774. Joseph Bradshaw (poss bapt 1737)  was one of the witnesses at the wedding so it would suggest  George's father was a William Colley.
So perhaps the George Colley bapt at Sheffield St Peter and Paul son of William Colley cutler 16.7.1742.

(William son of George  became a knife maker granted freedom 1791 perhaps)

Sorry not to find the Shropshire connection .
Ciderdrinker